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Old 03-20-10, 05:41 PM   #1
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Folks who call others haters are afraid of the franchise dying and they will accept any quality what-so-ever. They perhaps see silent hunter merely as a template to which willing modders work their as of to complete and enhance.
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Old 03-20-10, 05:44 PM   #2
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Folks who call others haters are afraid of the franchise dying and they will accept any quality what-so-ever. They perhaps see silent hunter merely as a template to which willing modders work their as of to complete and enhance.
That's exactly my point. Good to see i'm not the only one
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Old 03-20-10, 05:52 PM   #3
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That's exactly my point. Good to see i'm not the only one
Oh relax, there's a LOT of us. The funny thing was that a lot of people never said "SH5 is a mess, devs please fix it", they jumped directly to "SH5 is a mess, get to work modders!".

Did you hear that Ducimus? GET TO WORK!!! You lazy bum (joking ofc)
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Old 03-20-10, 05:56 PM   #4
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The funny thing was that a lot of people never said "SH5 is a mess, devs please fix it", they jumped directly to "SH5 is a mess, get to work modders!".
Of course we did. Why wait for a patch when most of the complaints are tiny little things that it takes five minutes for us to fix ourselves?
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Old 03-20-10, 06:07 PM   #5
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Of course we did. Why wait for a patch when most of the complaints are tiny little things that it takes five minutes for us to fix ourselves?
I don't think you get the point... most people that bought the game had never heard about Subsim. The bugs in the game made a lot of people join this forum lately. There are a lot of people who don't use mods. The lack of info in the manual and the incomplete cammands and interface are not "tiny things', even though they were modded fast and painless. But the Save issues are humongous. Until they're fixed there's no reason to waste time on SH5 for any mod, regardless how simple it is and how good the modding tools are.

To use a car metaphor, it's like buying a car and when you see there's no steering wheel installed, you're told: "Well sir, we didn't have time to install a steering wheel. We suggest you go to MOMO.com and order a nice sport steering wheel. Most of our old customers were already doing that so we thought we left the wheel out and concentrate on the paint..."
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Old 03-20-10, 06:13 PM   #6
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To use a car metaphor, it's like buying a car...
No. Not at all. A car is a car, a game is a game. I'm usually very open to metaphors, and I use them a lot myself, but sorry, but this just doesn't fly.
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Old 03-20-10, 06:15 PM   #7
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No. Not at all. A car is a car, a game is a game. I'm usually very open to metaphors, and I use them a lot myself, but sorry, but this just doesn't fly.
Oh come on... Steering wheel, compass? Momo.com, Subsim.com? No? Nothing?
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Old 03-20-10, 06:21 PM   #8
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Come on... bugs and noncences must be systematically fixed in ione download called patch.
Moders should make a game different, from arcade to sim, but not to clear and wash the garbage.

Could you imagine 14 years old kid, non English speaking, searching mod by mod, to make it playable... and not claiming refund to shop or website.
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Old 03-20-10, 05:57 PM   #9
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The problem is in the fact that modders are needed to bring the game up to the standard it should have been in the first place. Why should these people slave away, doing the developers' jobs, when they should instead be enjoying the game themselves?
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Old 03-20-10, 06:03 PM   #10
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Yeah exactly. Its sad that we accept having several months long transition period where small, easily recognizable bugs are beeing fixed by modders. In the meantime, normal players shelf the game or play with inferior quality.

But this thread is about news about patches. Im more worried about the silence from ubisoft, dont they love us? We are their customers...
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Old 03-21-10, 11:10 AM   #11
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Oh relax, there's a LOT of us. The funny thing was that a lot of people never said "SH5 is a mess, devs please fix it", they jumped directly to "SH5 is a mess, get to work modders!".
That's exactly why I stopped modding SH5. I am not working for free any more to fix UBI's broken, unfinished crap.
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Old 03-21-10, 11:04 AM   #12
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Folks who call others haters are afraid of the franchise dying and they will accept any quality what-so-ever. They perhaps see silent hunter merely as a template to which willing modders work their as of to complete and enhance.
Very well said Noren. And very true. ^

I see no trolling at all in this thread. What I do see is a very real possibility that there won't be another patch. The silence from UBI is deafening. I think the SH5 die hard defenders are starting to get a bit scared now. Muahahaha.
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Old 03-21-10, 11:52 AM   #13
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I see no trolling at all in this thread.
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I think the SH5 die hard defenders are starting to get a bit scared now. Muahahaha.
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Old 03-21-10, 12:02 PM   #14
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blablablablablablablablabla................


Neurosis


Effects and symptoms:

cognitive problems such as unpleasant or disturbing thoughts, repetition of thoughts and obsession, habitual fantasizing, negativity and cynicism, etc. Interpersonally, neurosis involves dependency, aggressiveness, perfectionism, schizoid isolation, socio-culturally inappropriate behaviors, etc.
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Old 03-21-10, 01:35 PM   #15
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Neurosis


Effects and symptoms:

cognitive problems such as unpleasant or disturbing thoughts, repetition of thoughts and obsession, habitual fantasizing, negativity and cynicism, etc. Interpersonally, neurosis involves dependency, aggressiveness, perfectionism, schizoid isolation, socio-culturally inappropriate behaviors, etc.
Didn't you post that in another thread too?

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