Better looking sun,sunrise,sunset for GWX3?

sharkbit · 03-18-10, 07:59 AM

Paul,
Here are some in game screenies of how MEP 3 looks on my computer. These are completely unedited:

sharkbit · 03-18-10, 08:01 AM

A couple more:

Paul Riley · 03-18-10, 08:23 AM

I have to say they look fantastic! was this mod installed straight over GWX3? Does it completely redraw everything GWX3 did?.As long as it doesnt change any of the script or other settings in GWX3 then I am getting this!
The sea looks so much richer and actually looks deeper,if you know what I mean,and the sun looks more like what we see in the sky for real.
I will give you a list of mods I currently have activated,and you tell me if I need to disable (to your knowledge) any that may cause problems,ok?
Can you also tell me what graphics card these shots were taken on?,mine is an ATI X800 Pro (256MB) ,it shouldnt have problems rendering these mod effects,I hope.
I suspect the GWX enhanced damage effects and RBs SH4 effects if enabled with this could cause some conflict?,as they basically all do the same thing to a degree,alter certain effects.

GWX 16k atmosphere
GWX enhanced damage effects
GWX lite harbour traffic
GWX officer icons
GWX integrated orders
torpedo damage final
RBs SH4 effects
AIL moon mod
a scope mod that blacks out the metal rim
nav map lights,red ,green,blue

I look forward to your reply.I really LOVE what I have seen so far! I particularly like the diesel smoke trail behind your UBoat!

sharkbit · 03-18-10, 08:42 AM

Paul,
Install it over GWX. As far as I know, it will not change any non-environmental portion of GWX. By no means am I an expert though.

Disable the GWX 16km atmosphere-MEP3 is a 20km mod. MEP2.1 is the 16km mod. Pick which one you want, but I would think you need to disable the GWX 16km no matter what. I had the unofficial GWX20km mod installed and I disabled it when installing MEP3 and have had no issues. I've always liked the 20km mod.

You may have to disable your moon mod first. MEP may overwrite it. You may be able to insatll that back over the MEP mod, but I'm not sure. I'm not familiar with that mod.
I'm not sure I like the moon in MEP yet, I may have to experiment a little with some other moons. There are a couple of moon mods out there.

I have a few of the same mods running as you do and I have not had any problems.

The diesel smoke is a seperate mod by Rubini(I think

).

You might scan through the appropriate thread for any possible issues and ask more detailed questions there or PM makman94 who released the mod.
By no means am I an expert on mods. I'm always afraid of mod soup causing problems too, but I've had some pretty good luck, so far.

I wanted to get some submerged shots. It looks really nice underwater as well.

I have a NVIDIA graphics card(a 6600 I think) so things may look slightly different, and maybe waaaay better, than what I'm getting.
Like I said before, the best thing to do is try it out. You can always disable it with JGSME.

Enjoy!

Paul Riley · 03-18-10, 08:49 AM

sharkbit,

Have you also editted all the files mentioned in the readme too,such as the sensors.dat etc? ,I personally dont want to touch these but if I have to I will.I simply want to install it and enjoy it.I just dont want to screw anything up as you can imagine.
Another thing that has got me curious is,the author states that the nights are now a bit brighter with the mod?.If that is the case by how much?,I actually like the GWX dark nights,especially during storms.If the nights are not TOO bright then that is acceptable for me.I dont really want to be seeing ships in pitch darkness at ranges barely on the horizon line.
Thanks for your input here

sharkbit · 03-18-10, 09:10 AM

I have not edited anything in the files as stated in the read me. I'm like you-I want to install via JSGME and play. I thought I'd play it as is and go from there and have been happy with the results. I don't have that many hours with it installed still, so I haven't seen everything there is to see yet.

I'm not sure about the nights yet. I've only done one night time submerged attack(yesterday and I had a little issue with crash diving while submerged-

). I haven't done any surface attacks at night yet, and probably won't at the point I am in the war-too many radar equipped escorts running around in late 1943,....... with hedgehogs--shudder.

My nights were already fairly light, but I don't think unrealistically so. My old rig had a ATI card and the nights were darker than a well digger's arse. My old, tired eyes had it pretty difficult with my nose pressed up against the monitor to see what I was aiming at. My wife always asked "What are you doing? There's nose prints on the screen!"

When I got a new rig last year with a NVIDIA card, the first thing I noticed was how much lighter the nights were. Sometimes I think maybe a little unrealistically bright(still not sure yet), but it is easier on the eyes.

I've read somewhere where that is a characteristic of NVIDIA cards.

Hope this helps.

Paul Riley · 03-18-10, 09:22 AM

Well,if it works for you and you are happy with it then i'm gonna give it a shot.I MAY (not sure) edit the sensors.dat files as the author states this will allow the watch to spot ships at up to 20km away.Having said that,i'm not even sure if this is even possible in real life as 20km is a bloody long way away!
ATI cards DO tend to render shadows slightly darker in some games,and this can be beneficial where stealth/shadows are important,such as in another favourite game of mine 'thief - deadly shadows'

I'm gonna install this before next patrol!

Thanks for your replies SB,and for mentioning this mod in the first place.

Paul Riley · 03-18-10, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharkbit

I'm not sure about the nights yet. I've only done one night time My old, tired eyes had it pretty difficult with my nose pressed up against the monitor to see what I was aiming at. My wife always asked "What are you doing? There's nose prints on the screen!"

Been there done that,minus the wife of course,i'm not married

You should have told her "dear,I am studying the fantastic anatomy of this greenfly on my screen,an absolute marvel of nature!" LOL

03-18-10, 07:59 AM	#1
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	Paul, Here are some in game screenies of how MEP 3 looks on my computer. These are completely unedited: __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

03-18-10, 08:01 AM	#2
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	A couple more: __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

03-18-10, 08:23 AM	#3
Paul Riley Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 2,679 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	I have to say they look fantastic! was this mod installed straight over GWX3? Does it completely redraw everything GWX3 did?.As long as it doesnt change any of the script or other settings in GWX3 then I am getting this! The sea looks so much richer and actually looks deeper,if you know what I mean,and the sun looks more like what we see in the sky for real. I will give you a list of mods I currently have activated,and you tell me if I need to disable (to your knowledge) any that may cause problems,ok? Can you also tell me what graphics card these shots were taken on?,mine is an ATI X800 Pro (256MB) ,it shouldnt have problems rendering these mod effects,I hope. I suspect the GWX enhanced damage effects and RBs SH4 effects if enabled with this could cause some conflict?,as they basically all do the same thing to a degree,alter certain effects. GWX 16k atmosphere GWX enhanced damage effects GWX lite harbour traffic GWX officer icons GWX integrated orders torpedo damage final RBs SH4 effects AIL moon mod a scope mod that blacks out the metal rim nav map lights,red ,green,blue I look forward to your reply.I really LOVE what I have seen so far! I particularly like the diesel smoke trail behind your UBoat! __________________ Best Patrol: 10 merchants + HMS Nelson for 68.056 Tonnes

03-18-10, 08:42 AM	#4
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	Paul, Install it over GWX. As far as I know, it will not change any non-environmental portion of GWX. By no means am I an expert though. Disable the GWX 16km atmosphere-MEP3 is a 20km mod. MEP2.1 is the 16km mod. Pick which one you want, but I would think you need to disable the GWX 16km no matter what. I had the unofficial GWX20km mod installed and I disabled it when installing MEP3 and have had no issues. I've always liked the 20km mod. You may have to disable your moon mod first. MEP may overwrite it. You may be able to insatll that back over the MEP mod, but I'm not sure. I'm not familiar with that mod. I'm not sure I like the moon in MEP yet, I may have to experiment a little with some other moons. There are a couple of moon mods out there. I have a few of the same mods running as you do and I have not had any problems. The diesel smoke is a seperate mod by Rubini(I think ). You might scan through the appropriate thread for any possible issues and ask more detailed questions there or PM makman94 who released the mod. By no means am I an expert on mods. I'm always afraid of mod soup causing problems too, but I've had some pretty good luck, so far. I wanted to get some submerged shots. It looks really nice underwater as well. I have a NVIDIA graphics card(a 6600 I think) so things may look slightly different, and maybe waaaay better, than what I'm getting. Like I said before, the best thing to do is try it out. You can always disable it with JGSME. Enjoy! __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

03-18-10, 08:49 AM	#5
Paul Riley Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 2,679 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	sharkbit, Have you also editted all the files mentioned in the readme too,such as the sensors.dat etc? ,I personally dont want to touch these but if I have to I will.I simply want to install it and enjoy it.I just dont want to screw anything up as you can imagine. Another thing that has got me curious is,the author states that the nights are now a bit brighter with the mod?.If that is the case by how much?,I actually like the GWX dark nights,especially during storms.If the nights are not TOO bright then that is acceptable for me.I dont really want to be seeing ships in pitch darkness at ranges barely on the horizon line. Thanks for your input here __________________ Best Patrol: 10 merchants + HMS Nelson for 68.056 Tonnes

03-18-10, 09:10 AM	#6
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	I have not edited anything in the files as stated in the read me. I'm like you-I want to install via JSGME and play. I thought I'd play it as is and go from there and have been happy with the results. I don't have that many hours with it installed still, so I haven't seen everything there is to see yet. I'm not sure about the nights yet. I've only done one night time submerged attack(yesterday and I had a little issue with crash diving while submerged-). I haven't done any surface attacks at night yet, and probably won't at the point I am in the war-too many radar equipped escorts running around in late 1943,....... with hedgehogs--shudder. My nights were already fairly light, but I don't think unrealistically so. My old rig had a ATI card and the nights were darker than a well digger's arse. My old, tired eyes had it pretty difficult with my nose pressed up against the monitor to see what I was aiming at. My wife always asked "What are you doing? There's nose prints on the screen!" When I got a new rig last year with a NVIDIA card, the first thing I noticed was how much lighter the nights were. Sometimes I think maybe a little unrealistically bright(still not sure yet), but it is easier on the eyes. I've read somewhere where that is a characteristic of NVIDIA cards. Hope this helps. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

03-18-10, 09:22 AM	#7
Paul Riley Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 2,679 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	Well,if it works for you and you are happy with it then i'm gonna give it a shot.I MAY (not sure) edit the sensors.dat files as the author states this will allow the watch to spot ships at up to 20km away.Having said that,i'm not even sure if this is even possible in real life as 20km is a bloody long way away! ATI cards DO tend to render shadows slightly darker in some games,and this can be beneficial where stealth/shadows are important,such as in another favourite game of mine 'thief - deadly shadows' I'm gonna install this before next patrol! Thanks for your replies SB,and for mentioning this mod in the first place. __________________ Best Patrol: 10 merchants + HMS Nelson for 68.056 Tonnes

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