Again a Western country bends over

Originally Posted by JackAubrey

That's my point. You may say all the negative things you want about my country or me being german, because if you say that germany consists of racist people like sand in the sahara, you're basically saying that I am racist because germans are racist.
But if I say negative things about Finland, then Finns take offense?
So Finns may take offense while germans are not allowed to?

No, I said I don't take offence. I can't talk for other people though, just like you can't talk for other Germans.

So you're a nationalist and take offence when people criticise your nation?

[JackAubrey]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

No, I said I don't take offence. I can't talk for other people though, just like you can't talk for other Germans.

So you're a nationalist and take offence when people criticise your nation?

Obviously you either can not understand or you simply refuse to understand what I mean and rather politicize then answer. So there's no point in arguing with you. I will have to accept that in your world, the people of germany are racist.

Originally Posted by JackAubrey

Obviously you either can not understand or you simply refuse to understand what I mean and rather politicize then answer. So there's no point in arguing with you. I will have to accept that in your world, the people of germany are racist.

My original statement, if you actually cared to read it, would actually translate more closely to "many people in Germany are racist", which is unfortunately true. You have turned it into "all Germans are racist", a really bad strawman attempt.

Happy Times,

wrong, dude! My Sami ancestry dates way before WW 2.

My Finnish side comes mainly from Ilmajoki, good luck trying to flip that into a 'commie hotspot'. I also have some Kven ancestry.

But I have to say that it doesn't surprise me one bit to find out that you're not actually Finnish. It's often people like the Finnish-Swedish who make the biggest asses of themselves with blatant racism etc. and consider themselves to be above average Finns, let alone Sami etc.

[Happy Times]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

Happy Times,

wrong, dude! My Sami ancestry dates way before WW 2.

My Finnish side comes mainly from Ilmajoki, good luck trying to flip that into a 'commie hotspot'. I also have some Kven ancestry.

But I have to say that it doesn't surprise me one bit to find out that you're not actually Finnish. It's often people like the Finnish-Swedish who make the biggest asses of themselves with blatant racism etc. and consider themselves to be above average Finns, let alone Sami etc.

You should go more often to Ilmajoki and engage in debates there.
Half of my family comes from Southern Ostrobothnia, Kauhajoki and also Ilmajoki, mixed Finnish and Swedish. Other half is mixed Karelian and German from occupied Karelia. My mother tongue is Finnish. I consider myself a very typical Finn, i just know my family history, most are not interested.

I only have my mothers mothers and mothers fathers relatives in Ilmajoki, mostly distant cousins. Many are already dead, I think some of their children still live in Laihia.

I have been to Ilmajoki, didn't get into fights. Many like wrestling over there. Lots of farming etc. there. Not a bad place, once you get to know some people there.