[REQ] Natural Sinking/Ship Death

[The General]

Originally Posted by Highbury

I have often wished we would be credited for the ones we just can't put down as well, not with a kill but with the game recognizing damaged ones.

Shall we start giving out medals to everyone who took part at the Olympics too, we don't want them to feel left out?!

Did the Sub-Aces get to the top of the Leaderboard for the amount of damage they did or the amount of tonnage sunk in total? There are no prizes for second place!

[Highbury]

Originally Posted by The General

Did the Sub-Aces get to the top of the Leaderboard for the amount of damage they did or the amount of tonnage sunk in total?

Both if you look at the link I posted. Their "damaged" tonnage was part of their record. So it is realistic, ok?

[The General]

Originally Posted by Highbury

Both if you look at the link I posted. Their "damaged" tonnage was part of their record. So it is realistic, ok?

No, not 'ok'. Are you telling me that a guy who had less total tonnage sunk but had a higher total, when combined with his damaged tonnage, would have a higher place on the leaderboard? I say no way.

[Highbury]

I am saying that each Captain had two statistics. One for Sunk and One for Damaged. Both were recorded separately in real life so I would like both recorded separately on our records in game. I don't care about any leaderboard. Is that clear enough? For those who do get excited over leaderboards then I would be quite happy to leave those counts out if it. I want it for realism in my log.

[The General]

Is the sky the right shade of blue for you in SH5? If not, I'm sure we can recall The Devs from their well-earned holiday to attend to your every whim.

[KV]

*sigh* Two different things - to continue the analogy: detailing the career of someone on the leaderboard is different from the actual ranking of the leaderboard. I may have won 1 gold medal, and finished 4th fifty-two times. That would still be interesting from a so called "academic" point of view, even though it doesn't move me further up the leaderboard. So why not add "damaged" as an "academic" function to my own stats?

[The General]

@KV

That deck ain't gonna clean itself. You can join your Swabbie friend above.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Highbury

I am saying that each Captain had two statistics. One for Sunk and One for Damaged. Both were recorded separately in real life so I would like both recorded separately on our records in game. I don't care about any leaderboard. Is that clear enough? For those who do get excited over leaderboards then I would be quite happy to leave those counts out if it. I want it for realism in my log.

Do you have any direct reference to actual records. I love Uboat.net, but this site disagrees http://www.uboataces.com/articles-su...l-attack.shtml

I've never heard of captains being awarded for damage before, except as a footnote; especially if the ship was repaired and returned to service. What does Blair say in his books.

Yes, I agree it would be nice to have damage reported, especially if the ship ends up being scrapped. I don't think it should apply to renown, though, but that's just my opinion.


My big question to add to the OP's though, is this: Do you still have to be within sighting distance of the target to get the credit. Realistically you should be awarded even if it sinks two days later. It would be a nice surprise. It would also be a nice surprise to be notified that the ship made it to port and you're out of luck, credit-wise.

[KV]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Do you have any direct reference to actual records. I love Uboat.net, but this site disagrees http://www.uboataces.com/articles-su...l-attack.shtml

I've never heard of captains being awarded for damage before, except as a footnote; especially if the ship was repaired and returned to service. What does Blair say in his books.

Just a note, for me at least it would be interesting to just have the damage acknowledged, not for score or anything rank related but just for the record. A bit like the stats for u-boat captains on Wikipedia (e.g. Prien etc.). I'm sure they'd mention of they'd put 8 torpedoes into the biggest carrier or whatever the enemy had and that it didn't sink but was abandoned. Or whatever.

[Ducimus]

>> [REQ] Natural Sinking/Ship Death

It is way too early to be thinking about this kind of thing.

[Highbury]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Do you have any direct reference to actual records. I love Uboat.net, but this site disagrees http://www.uboataces.com/articles-su...l-attack.shtml

Actually UBoat.net is a good enough reference unless you think they made up the figures for damaged ships on that site, and I doubt you would believe that. It shows that in an informal way damaged tonnage was being counted, even if some websites don't list them or consider them pertinent.

It should not count on any leaderboard, or be rewarded with renown, but I think it would be nice if it was included as a note in your patrol logs, as was done in real life. That's all. I think anyone who used SH3Commander would probably agree that these little details make a game career much more full.

[killpo1]

Lol i can see it now; Total Tonnage Sunk: 150,000 Total Damaged Tonnage: 1,000,000.3 /cry

But yeah i would enjoy seeing at least the damaged i caused even though i didn't sink them

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Highbury

Actually UBoat.net is a good enough reference unless you think they made up the figures for damaged ships on that site, and I doubt you would believe that. It shows that in an informal way damaged tonnage was being counted, even if some websites don't list them or consider them pertinent.

I'm sure their figures are accurate. I was objecting to 'awards' based on them. Your following paragraph cleared that up nicely.

It should not count on any leaderboard, or be rewarded with renown, but I think it would be nice if it was included as a note in your patrol logs, as was done in real life. That's all. I think anyone who used SH3Commander would probably agree that these little details make a game career much more full.

Gotcha. I originally thought you were rooting for awards when you were just advocating full acknowledgement.

I was on a different page, and now that you've cleared it up for me I agree wholeheartedly.