Are mods in MP a public statement?

Originally Posted by razark

That's a pretty darn big assumption. Can you point to anything (besides idle speculation) that says that mods will be in any way of form on Ubi servers?

yes it is purely speculation and i doubt they would risk doing it that way.

The mods need to be on the user's computer. The game lives there, too. The save games are uploaded to the server. The mods are not the save games. The save games don't hold data on what sounds or graphics mods the user is using.

its quite simple, there are two times UBI has to be accessing your computer, one is for reading your games files to diagnose them and the other is to confirm the updates after installing them.


UBI cant know if the game needs to be updated unless it scans and reads the game files on your computer first.


unless you are required to do this yourself or somehow it uninstalls your mods first then it is also going to be reading your modded files as well along with all the changes they make.


so the question is, if UBI uninstalls your mods to update the game it must store them somewhere so they can be reinstalled when its finished but where they get stored is one of the things we are talking about, will it be kept on the server (unlikely) or a temperary file on "your" computer which is what i think will happen.


I have yet to see a mod that converts the save game into a string of profanity or death threats.

i have also not seen a mod for sh5 yet but in sh3 or sh4 any adding or removing of mods will "break" any save games or careers you have so they are impacted by the mods installed in the game.


If you do have evidence that Ubi will have access to our mod files, please show it.

this whole thread is about pure speculation so to demand evidence of some fact behind my speculation and opinion is asking a lot in a thread about peoples opinions.

That said, if the mods are, for some unknown reason, stored on Ubi servers, then yes, Ubi has every right to know what is on their servers. That means you need to read the EULA very carefully. If you make a mod with something illegal in it, and it ends up on their server, they are responsible for it being on their server. As it is their server, and their legal responsibility, they have the right to know and remove it.

i was simply responding to this question you asked

"If my modded files are on my computer, why would they have any say in that?"

and i never presented my comments as absolute fact, you asked me to answer a how it could be and i speculated as to how it might be a problem.

i dont understand the challenge to my opinion but at the end of your reply i see you do understand the point i was making.

my personal opinion on this is UBI will require us to uninstall our mods then click on an update feature to activate it. this way we have the amount of control needed to not lose careers or be blindsided by some sort of auto updating system. to me its the only logical way it "should" be done.

[razark]

Originally Posted by Webster

i was simply responding to this question you asked

"If my modded files are on my computer, why would they have any say in that?"

and i never presented my comments as absolute fact, you asked me to answer a how it could be and i speculated as to how it might be a problem.

i dont understand the challenge to my opinion but at the end of your reply i see you do understand the point i was making.

Sorry, it was not my intention to attack you or challenge you. I was reponding to the fact that the thread is really based off an assumption. No offense meant to you, or anyone specifically. I wasn't demanding that you show evidence, that was more of a generic "you".

Originally Posted by Webster

my personal opinion on this is UBI will require us to uninstall our mods then click on an update feature to activate it. this way we have the amount of control needed to not lose careers or be blindsided by some sort of auto updating system. to me its the only logical way it "should" be done.

There's such a wide possibility of mods that could exist. I think a "Please remove your mods so we can update. Continue, Cancel" type dialog would be needed. Otherwise, they run the risk of damaging files on the user's computer. I don't see their legal department as being too okay with that.

Originally Posted by razark

Sorry, it was not my intention to attack you or challenge you. I was reponding to the fact that the thread is really based off an assumption. No offense meant to you, or anyone specifically. I wasn't demanding that you show evidence, that was more of a generic "you".



There's such a wide possibility of mods that could exist. I think a "Please remove your mods so we can update. Continue, Cancel" type dialog would be needed. Otherwise, they run the risk of damaging files on the user's computer. I don't see their legal department as being too okay with that.

you have no reason to apologize and i didnt see it as an kind of attack, personally or otherwise. i merely saw it as a challenge to defend my opinion and since i thought you were asking for an opinion to the question you posed it was strange to be requested to justify my answer.

i read your comment as asking "how could this occur?" and my answer was trying to lay out a scenario in which it might.

[Brag]

I love the idea of Ubi accessing my computer