I'm reading the Bible--and it's awesome

[Rip]

Originally Posted by Garion

Heheh I got a used version of this for Xmas, reading it now.

O'L Doughnuts had his work cut out for him fighting the beaurocracy. I was also surprised at the Number of and versions of Type 2 Ducks there were.

Cheers

Garion

OK I am only on Chapter five, don't spoil the ending.

[TarJak]

Originally Posted by Rip

OK I am only on Chapter five, don't spoil the ending.

Watch out for the twist nrear the end.

[Sailor Steve]

The butler did it.

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

The butler did it.

Here's me thinking it was Admiral Horton in the pond with the Hedgehog.

[Steeltrap]

Originally Posted by Randomizer

Here's me thinking it was Admiral Horton in the pond with the Hedgehog.

Not Colonel Mustard?

[LiveGoat]

Almost halfway through the first volume. The appendices alone are worth the price of the books. Am tempted to get Blair's book on the U.S. subs but will have to hold off. I've spent enough money this month as it is.

[frau kaleun]

Originally Posted by Steeltrap

Not Colonel Mustard?

It was Rosebud, in the snow, with a sled.

[Jimbuna]

They all die at the end.

[brandtryan]

Originally Posted by sharkbit

Too expensive. Look around on Amazon or e-bay.
I buy 99% of my books from one of those sites. New ones are even cheaper than B&N.

Don't be afraid to try used books. A lot of the books are listed as Used-Very Good Condition. When I've received them, they look as good as new.

I had to get mine used--it looks brand new though. I think it's out of print. I haven't ordered Volume II yet though, "The Hunted". I'll wait until the add-on for years 1943 to 1945 for SHV!

[brandtryan]

Originally Posted by LiveGoat

Almost halfway through the first volume. The appendices alone are worth the price of the books. Am tempted to get Blair's book on the U.S. subs but will have to hold off. I've spent enough money this month as it is.

Excellent book--though I must admit--only made it half way throught before wanting to switch to ATO, and thus buy those books instead.

If I were to review these books with a one-liner--it would be:

"These books will undoubtedly become the foundation for the Star Trek database on submarine warfare during WWII in the 20th Centry."

[brandtryan]

Not providing any evidence, nor taking a position--but thought this would be a good discussion away from dev issues of game:

From forward page XIII of Clay Blair's Hitler's U-Boat War: The Hunters, 1939-1942

"The myths notwithstanding, only a tiny percentage of Allied merchant ships actually fell victim to U-boats. Ninety-nine percent of all Allied merchant ships in the transatlantic convoys reached assigned destinations." (Bold mine)

This may be known to all you guys--but it surprised the he** out of me.

[mookiemookie]

I've always wanted to know what that percentage was counting only the years pre-1943.

[SteamWake]

Im 99% sure thats true

[bigboywooly]

Is that 99% for the whole war
Or just 39 - 42

After 43 convoys increased in frequency for the build up of invasions and the uboat threat was reduced significantly by then so if that figure is for the whole war would be about right

wonder if there any % year by year out there somwhere

[Sailor Steve]

Uboat.net has a month-by-month page showing losses.
http://www.uboat.net/allies/merchants/losses_year.html

The total number of ships (including warships) hit by uboats was 2791, and that includes ships that were torpedoed or shelled but survived.
http://www.uboat.net/allies/merchants/index.html

Since the US alone built more than 2700 Liberty ships in just two years, it would seem that Germany's best chance to win the Battle of the Atlantic was in 1940. After that it was all downhill for them.

The Battle Of The Atlantic, by Terry Hughes and John Costello, has month-by-month charts showing Allied shipping at sea, number of ships and tonnage sunk, and u-boats lost.