The gawd-almighty merged DRM in Silent Hunter V thread

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by dcb

Just when Ubi discovered their ultimate protection tool, others who pioneered it are dropping it. Rise of Flight will get its OSP removed this February:

http://riseofflight.com/Blogs/post/2010/02/05/LOGIN-OFFLINE-ACCESS-GRANTED!!!.aspx

How long has that game been out? Maybe that's the plan, drop some of the DRM after the game has been out and achieved a certain sales goal? Then the moochers can play for free.

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

How long has that game been out?

11 months and 8 days.

[Hanomag]

Come gather 'round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You'll be drenched to the bone.
If your time to you
Is worth savin'
Then you better start swimmin'
Or you'll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin'.

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Brag

8.) Now they know your playing habits. Since you save your game on their server, this storage space not only costs Ubi more and more, but they also learn about your personality.

They learn about your personality from your save games?????

Is sortta like primitive natives believing that if you take their photograph that you own their souls?

How exactly is Ubi gonna learn about my personality from my save games? This is, of course contingent on Ubi caring about my personality in the first place.

[Kapitanleutnant]

Originally Posted by Platapus

This is, of course contingent on Ubi caring about my personality in the first place.

Yo what's up my man dig this: sometimes companies like to sell private information about you to advertisers so that they in turn can advertise specific products to you based on this information.
Crazy I know.

note for idiots: I'm not saying that this is what Ubi does, or what they're planning to do. But going "hurr durr why would this giant, profit-driven corporation want to know anything aboot me????" is pretty naive.

[Brag]

Johan Sebastian Balz, greatest hero of the Kriegsmarine has this to say about SHV/DRm/OSP.

First of all, one must think in Japanese to say DRM in Spanish. Why Spanish? This is an international forum, so we must be able to say les DRM in French while schprehen OSP in German while thinking in Greek

The word for NO in Greek is Oxi, the Greeks even have a holiday called Oxi Day. To Ubi this means NO, Oxi, Nyet, Hapana, No in French, No in English, No in Spanish and Portuguese. If you speak Japanse you say Oxi in Greek while thinking in French.

Nous, les Subsimmers, wir machen la rechaza, of le DRM govno (Le scheisse in Russe) et reject le crappula you stinking fools pousse dans notre troats, We no swallow nuttin avec le shiet of le DRM. Pousse la viande, cochons and take your DRM/OSP up your Mutti’s (sensored).

When I speak Japanese to my Dutch friends who have never spoken Dario, I tell them in Arabic that Sayonara in Japanese means the same as sayonara in German.

Ubi, if you don’t get rid of DRM/OSP by release day, In Japanse the French will tell you in German while speaking English. Metez your DVDs up El gran culo of your mother. You will have lots of them available in Japanese.

Johan Sebastian Balz
Feel free to admire me anythime.

[Elder-Pirate]

Where they can't find you from your mail ( snail mail ) that you trashed ( many people don't shred their mail before trashing ) they can and they will sell your name to many agencies that pay a good sum so they can mail you all sorts of junk mail both snail mail and email.

Prove to me UBI will not do that. I'll bet they will. Greed is greed.

[Brag]

Originally Posted by Platapus

They learn about your personality from your save games?????

Is sortta like primitive natives believing that if you take their photograph that you own their souls?

How exactly is Ubi gonna learn about my personality from my save games? This is, of course contingent on Ubi caring about my personality in the first place.

I can learn a l;ot about you by just studying your posts. Never mind what I could learn about you from watching you play an intense game. They (Ubi) would be looking for other stuff in your computer. If not them, other hackers who would take advantage of you being logged in into the OSP servers.

[Letum]

Lets not forget the "boontybox" incident.

Ubi made IL2 players to download a program that searched for all
games installed on your PC and sent Ubi data about how often you
played them. I see no reason they wouldn't do something like this again
if they thaught they could get away with it.

Originally Posted by Letum

Lets not forget the "boontybox" incident.

Ubi made IL2 players to download a program that searched for all
games installed on your PC and sent Ubi data about how often you
played them. I see no reason they wouldn't do something like this again
if they thaught they could get away with it.

why wouldnt they?

after all look how many are convinced this DRM/OSP stuff is something so wonderfull that they are smearing on the KY and dropping trow begging for it

a company would be silly not to take advantage of such an invitation to spy on their sustomers computers and gaming habbits

[Méo]

Originally Posted by Webster

after all look how many are convinced this DRM/OSP stuff is something so wonderfull

how many are convinced?

Originally Posted by Webster

a company would be silly not to take advantage of such an invitation to spy on their sustomers computers and gaming habbits

Now if we have some serious evidence that Ubisoft already did something similar before with DRM, there would be something more concrete to base our opinion on, at least mine.

[ryanglavin]

I miss the good old days when all you had to do was plug in a key-code.
I might just be dreaming though.

[Nisgeis]

Originally Posted by ryanglavin

I miss the good old days when all you had to do was plug in a key-code.
I might just be dreaming though.

Ah, if you want real nostalgia, you want to be putting in the code, after you have viewed it through the rather difficult to use Lens-Lok device, which was a plastic device you held up to your TV, which through the magic of refraction, would decypher the code displayed on your tele and once you entered it, you could play the game (Elite). Although... even if you did have a lens lok device, you always thought 'what the hell letter is that' and you entered your best guess. It never really worked properly, because I don't think that there's anyway it could have worked properly with different sized TVs out there. You know, just applying the laws of physics and all.

Still, at least you didn't have to be online for it to work. Also, your saved games were local (to your tape :-) and you could use them on other machines too... (cue futuristic music).

[dannygjk]

Hi,

Saving games online would be an immersion spoiler for me. This means to be on the safe side, to avoid losing say 30 minutes on an approach, you better save every 20 minutes. Immersion spoiler. Maybe I'm obsessive, but when I play a sim, I'm there, sweating out approaches, depth charge attacks for hours, etc.

Danny

[Brag]

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