a story of patriotism...

[DarkFish]

Originally Posted by Tribesman

I asked you to state the article, the crime you thought it was is covered by disturbing the peace....because its a catch all charge that covers many things. Like not doing what an official tells you to do is an action likely to lead to a disturbance of the peace......continuing to not do what you were told is an actual disturbance of the peace.
They could have had him on both grounds and he is equally guilty of both according to what he says on that blog and what you have written here.

do you still maintain he's guilty of disturbance of the peace? I posted the Dutch law concerning that matter, did you read it or not?

yes its basicly illegal trespass on municipal property....because the public gallery has rules and he wouldn't follow them so he lost his legal right to be there.

even if he would have been legally removed, it would have been a different law he broke.
In the case you mention, you could be charged with TRESPASSING. Not with disturbance.

Let me write it down clearly one more time for you:
if someone is on a place he shouldn't be, he's TRESPASSING.
you are ONLY 'disturbing the peace' if you are at a place where some STATE-SECRETS are. It's in the LAW, LITERALLY, exactly like that, so please don't tell me this isn't true.

See above.

See above.
And my previous post.
And the post before my previous post.
And the post before that.
And even one more post before that.

The person whose descision it is thinks otherwise. So did the police. so does the public prosecutor

The person whose decision it was did indeed think otherwise, that's the point. But whatever he thought, he was not in his right to remove my dad. See below. The police are just called like "hey, there's someone here who doesn't want to leave, take him!". They do their job and take him out. It's not their responsibility to ask why exactly the person in question gets thrown out.

Can you understand the rules concerning public meetings?
Can you understand the laws covering the rules?

yes, I can, and I do.
You clearly don't even know these laws, at least not the Dutch laws concerning public meetings.

This is another thing I've said many, many and even manier times before. It is legal and widely accepted in the Netherlands to wave banners, flags, anything you want as long as it isn't anything offensive.
In my dad's case, if he had hold up a banner saying "death to all muslims" or something, it would have been rightful to remove him.
A flag can hardly be seen as offensive however. I can't remember the last time I were offended by seeing the Dutch flag, but it sure is a hell of a long time ago.

But as an experiment, if your father doesn't have a decent lawyer for advice and so decides to go to court and tries to avoid the consequences of his actions can you stand up in the public gallery of the court and repeat his actions and see which laws they throw at you?

Of course not. It wasn't exactly a smart thing to do from my dad, refusing to leave, so of course I ain't gonna do that.

If your dad jumps off the roof of his house, will you do the same and follow him?
Same thing, a stupid and potentially harmful decision.