Will the DRM affect your Purchase?

[Von Taticus]

Why is this poll closing on the 2/2/2010 ?

My Mistake when I posted it. Is there any way of extending it?

Also on a more constructive note I have done a new poll asking for votes to help define a better DRM system to satify both parties.

[Gezoes]

Originally Posted by Hitman

Very good points TB!!

Wonder were they will put their excuses when they realize the failiure of this system. If SH5 with this DRM gets more sales than SH3, that will be due to wider marketing, not due to less pirates. And I bet that, with most modders walking away from it, the long term sales won't be by far as productive as SH3/4.

BTW:

10:08 Am GMT+1 and UBI has lost already 38.200$ in SH5 sales

And what's more important, the % of potential customers angry with this all and not willing to purchase with this copy system has grown already to 89.25%

It would seem the ball is really rolling...

And in case Ubi is watching: No, we don't want this new OPS , PSO, or whatever this new critter is called, POS, either. I want a box in my hand and a cd key, and have FUN with the new episode of one of my favorite game series. I will even accept the scripting, only VII, and no 1944 and 1945. Just drop this George Orwellian stuff looking through my connection cable. Why? It only encourages people towards pirates, and as we all know we'd rather sink juicy concoys

Moo

[Lt.Fillipidis]

In my opinion, Ubisoft asks too much while giving too few.
Sorry, i'd rather donate 50Euros to the GWX team to support the GWX4 development rather than buying SH5 as it is.

[artao]

This is a HUGE load of BS!!!! I will NOT be buying ANY software product that requires me to have a constant online connection. period. Anti-piracy my shiny metal butt!! Pirates will, and always do, find ways around this brain-dead protection techniques. This will only hurt the legitimate consumer. Ubi can suck it on this one. I hope they get their heads out of their butts and remove this stupid, lame, pointless DRM crap!!!!
BOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

:n ope:


EDIT: I just found out about this maybe an hour ago and did the requisite research to see what it means .... now I'm really pissed off about it!!! no

[IrishUboot]

DRM = no purchase.

[skip]

This has me really annoyed, I was looking forward to playing Silent Hunter V but the new DRM is unacceptable to me in its current form.

The only way I would accept this new DRM protection would be if you only had to maybe log in once every week or so to get the game working and that after 1 year a patch removing the DRM would be released.

Also for me to accept this DRM it had better succeed at stopping pirates or whats the point.

Suffice to say if UBI leave this DRM policy as it is I wont be buying any more games from them no matter how good they may be. So relax the DRM a bit by having a once weekly login and state a date when the a DRM free patch will be released and I'll sign up.

[rev. beetle]

will not buy even if they add all the boats and run to 1945 and remove drm. ubisoft has forgotten their core fans with this game. this is not the way to continue this series.

[Malmer]

UBI still owes me for screwing up my optical with that StarForce junk they shipped with SH3...

Guess I'll have to go invest my money somewhere else...

[Steeltrap]

"Tim Renken DRM works great. I play 4 games that use it. Have you any experience with it?"

Sound familiar, anyone?

[Marko_Ramius]

Hi guys,

I will not purchase this game, in this current DRM state. And this really make me sick. I can't understand why they do this. it must be something under the hood.

SH is the perfect off-line gameplay style, and they want us always online .. my god And savegames on ubi servers . I may consider savegames like private data, nothing less .. i really doesn't get this.

A game like Crysis-Warhead has DRM, but just one check, and a serial i think. I'm perfectly ok with that.


But in the case of SH5 :

Unacceptable. Period.

[Platapus]

I am frankly torn on this issue.

I want to buy SH5 for the reason (not the only reason though) of supporting the development of submarine simulators.

I am trying to keep an open mind about the game play aspects of the game despite that Ubi only seems to be releasing examples of glitzy graphic eye candy. I am actually much more concerned with game play than the DRM issue.

As for the online requirement:

I do not have a sustained internet connection on my gaming computer. I have two computers in my home office. One is for legitimate computer internet use (surfing for porn ) and therefore has a sustained internet connection. My game playing computer does not have a sustained internet connection. Therefore it does not have a firewall or other internet security software taking up cpu time. It is just for playing games.

For those games that require a one time activation or to download mods, I hook up my cable from my hub, access the internet, do my business, and then physically disconnect.

I am also distrusting of any corporation who insists on having continuous access to my computer through the internet. Just because they "pinky swear" not to do anything wrong, they could. How trusting am I? When it comes to commercial companies, not very trusting at all. Now I would have to firewall my gaming computer to protect myself from any unauthorized (by me) access.

I might be willing to do this if I got something in return. But I am not.

Ubi, like any other corporation needs to be concerned with theft/piracy. That is their problem and I hope they can solve their problem, but leave me, the paying customer out. I am not the problem. Honestly, I am not the slightest bit interested in helping Ubi, or any other corporation solve their problem.

I am a customer. I pay them money and I get a product/service. Whether the company has or does not have any issues with theft/piracy is not my concern as I am neither a thief nor a pirate.

But when their solution to their problem starts to interfere with my doing business with their company, it becomes my problem.

I do not steal nor pirate software. I am willing to be subjected to a reasonable amount of inconvenience as a result of Ubi attempting to solve their problem. But there is a limit to what I, as an honest customer, will accept.

I am also a rabid capitalist. Nothing is free. A company wants me to accept more inconvenience for their problem? The company better offer me some compensation. The equation of Price paid + inconvenience = product/service gets unprofitable from the customer's viewpoint when the inconvenience increases with no other adjustments.

Will the continuous online requirement keep me from buying the game? I don't know. I don't like it, but I also want to support the development of submarine simulators.

Perhaps the solution is for me to buy SH5 when it comes out but not install it until this online issue is resolved to my satisfaction?

That would be a noble solution (financially supporting the development) but by buying SH5, am I passively sending a message to Ubi that I accept their solution to their problem?

If I don't buy SH5, am I passively sending a message to Ubi that I don't want any further development in submarine simulators?

I am honestly torn on this.

Which is more important to me

Supporting future development in submarine simulators?
Communicating my dislike for how Ubi is trying to solve their problem?

Either choice has disadvantages that are important to me.

For myself, I don't see a win-win solution to this complicated issue.

[Steeltrap]

Plat, so long as you purchase SH5 with this version of DRM you are sending the signal it is acceptable.

It's a bit like a restaurant serving oysters with excrement sauce. I like oysters, but I won't pay for them if they are served with excrement. Change your menu and I'll remain a customer, but I won't pay for this dish as it stands.

Cheers

[Steeltrap]

Wow.

942 votes and only 11.04% saying "it makes no difference to me".

[KL-alfman]

Originally Posted by Steeltrap

Plat, so long as you purchase SH5 with this version of DRM you are sending the signal it is acceptable.

It's a bit like a restaurant serving oysters with excrement sauce. I like oysters, but I won't pay for them if they are served with excrement. Change your menu and I'll remain a customer, but I won't pay for this dish as it stands.

Cheers

crude but funny analogy

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by Steeltrap

Plat, so long as you purchase SH5 with this version of DRM you are sending the signal it is acceptable.

Excellent and logical point.