All those not buying SH5 please move along.

[Mikhayl]

Basically Trenken is just as out of touch with reality as Ubi marketing is. If the paying customers don't follow that "change" then it will die, period. And Trenken can cry all he wants about it

[trenken]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Basically Trenken is just as out of touch with reality as Ubi marketing is. If the paying customers don't follow that "change" then it will die, period. And Trenken can cry all he wants about it

Yeah im pretty sure if you're here complaining about having to play a game online, I think you're the one out of touch.

If Im out of touch, please explain to me why the entire gaming industry is transitioning to online? Good luck coming up with an excuse for that one.

You can make posts about this all day, online is where it's all heading. You wont change that.

[FIREWALL]

Originally Posted by trenken

Yeah im pretty sure if you're here complaining about having to play a game online, I think you're the one out of touch.

If Im out of touch, please explain to me why the entire gaming industry is transitioning to online? Good luck coming up with an excuse for that one.

You can make posts about this all day, online is where it's all heading. You wont change that.

And this was brought to you by UBISOFT

[ETR3(SS)]

One question Trenken. But first this statement, I understand that you have an opinion and are entitled to it. Now the question. Why, when your views are challenged with facts, do you refuse to debate your position?

[FIREWALL]

Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

One question Trenken. But first this statement, I understand that you have an opinion and are entitled to it. Now the question. Why, when your views are challenged with facts, do you refuse to debate your position?

His position is a Ubisoft Damage Control employee.

[trenken]

Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

One question Trenken. But first this statement, I understand that you have an opinion and are entitled to it. Now the question. Why, when your views are challenged with facts, do you refuse to debate your position?

What facts? Someone said only 60% of the country is on broadband, well please explain to me why you cannot play games on dial up anymore?

Those people are being left behind, just as those are now that do not want to play games that require a constant connection.

You can fight it all day, you'll be left going back to SH3 while the rest of us get to enjoy every game that comes out without limitation.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

I'm suprised at the fact that you've been registered here for 4 years, yet dont know just how much of an influence this community actually has. I'm sure one of our esteemed historians will explain about SH3's Dynamic Campaign.

[IanC]

trenken, news flash. Just because something is new, doesn't mean it's better.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by trenken

while the rest of us get to enjoy every game that comes out without limitation.

Except for when the server goes down. Or when there's a power outage. Or when your travelling on a plane/train. Or when the company decides not to support that game anymore. Or when you move into an area without good broadband service. But other than that, without limitation.

[Rip]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Except for when the server goes down. Or when there's a power outage. Or when your travelling on a plane/train. Or when the company decides not to support that game anymore. Or when you move into an area without good broadband service. But other than that, without limitation.

Or when a hurricane comes through your area. **** half of the southeat was without reliable internet for weeks after Katrina. I didn't even have electricity but played a lot of SH3 thanks to a generator.

[TDK1044]

Only the Publisher benefits from the end user being forced to be connected to their servers. And wait until the first Publisher calls for a $5 monthly fee once the online DRM trend is established. Undoubtedly, those here that will forgive this publisher anything because they are the only one producing subsims will then be saying "Come on. It's $5. Everyone can afford that. The Publisher can't afford to give us server access for free."

The only justification for online access is multi player.

[trenken]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

Only the Publisher benefits from the end user being forced to be connected to their servers.

Thats your opinion. Many of us that own some DRM games have found some nice advantages to it. For me the primary one would be I love not having my save files on my machine. They are protected on a server so that if my machine decides to meltdown on me, I dont look months or years of progress. Big fan of that.

[tater]

Originally Posted by trenken

Thats your opinion. Many of us that own some DRM games have found some nice advantages to it. For me the primary one would be I love not having my save files on my machine. They are protected on a server so that if my machine decides to meltdown on me, I dont look months or years of progress. Big fan of that.

So the only concrete benefit is offsite save game protection?

You're on a 100% stable broadband connection, and you do not already back your entire machine up offsite?

My 1.5MB DSL connection (best I can get this far from a CO, and no cable up here in the foothills) allows me to back my machines up offsite. If my PC blows up, I have all my save games on a server someplace (india?) where my backup is. If you back up only online DRM games and not real data, wow, just wow. If you do back your machine(s) up offsite, the DRM benefit is entirely moot since you already back your save games up offsite without it—unless it's to play with another machine someplace else, but that implies the backwards technology of using a laptop (backwards cause it is sometimes not connected to the net as all good computers are).

So, now that offsite save games is entirely eliminated as something of unique value, what is the next benefit you glean?

[Rip]

Originally Posted by trenken

Thats your opinion. Many of us that own some DRM games have found some nice advantages to it. For me the primary one would be I love not having my save files on my machine. They are protected on a server so that if my machine decides to meltdown on me, I dont look months or years of progress. Big fan of that.

So then why not a choice to save them online or not. Maybe I hate my save games and I want them to get deleted by accident. My HDD has proven MUCH more reliable than my internet connection and I would bet a stack of hundreds yours is as well.

How many times has your HDD failed? How about your internet?

[KL-alfman]

Originally Posted by trenken

Thats your opinion. Many of us that own some DRM games have found some nice advantages to it. For me the primary one would be I love not having my save files on my machine. They are protected on a server so that if my machine decides to meltdown on me, I dont look months or years of progress. Big fan of that.

hi, trenken, until now I haven't responded to your snotty attitude towards many of the members here, but this got me curious:
do you tell me that you don't own a private back-up-management? sorry to say, but this is soooo 20th-century-ish that I feel only sorry for you. you know, the world is moving, people like you will just left behind, it's just your problem. if you don't like that adapt!
your fight against back-upping your system sucks and smells like dirty old pants.
move on! go with the flow!