Will the DRM affect your Purchase?

Tomp · 01-26-10, 01:56 PM

I have no problem with Steam. In fact, if I had to buy a downloadable game, I'd rather have Steam than some of the other download purchased games I've owned. Most require you to email or call their company to get the license renewed whenever you rebuild or buy a new system. Steam is pretty simple and works well in that regard.

My biggest gripe with Ubi has been the quality of the product at release! I wasn't exactly happy to find that SH3 crashed as often as it did at release. In fact, many had problems just getting it installed! SH4 was little better. And with the problems UBI had with Starforce, they should have rejected the scheme before even releasing it. If they didn't know it would cause so many problems they must not have tested it enough!

Anyway, I think I'll wait to hear the gripes before getting in this time. Let's see if they learned their lesson.

Tom P.

SteamWake · 01-26-10, 02:00 PM

What does Steam have to do with this?

Kapitanleutnant · 01-26-10, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

What does Steam have to do with this?

Not much, but Steam is an example of a good, unintrusive online authentication service.

Dowly · 01-26-10, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kapitanleutnant

Not much, but Steam is an example of a good, unintrusive online authentication service.

Oh dear... *waits for Steamwake's ranting post*

(atleast I think it was Steamwake who wasnt that fond of Steam.

)

Onkel Neal · 01-26-10, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

Oh dear... *waits for Steamwake's ranting post*

(atleast I think it was Steamwake who wasnt that fond of Steam.

)

There's always someone who's not fond of something

Sgtmonkeynads · 01-26-10, 02:09 PM

I had a game called Gunboat, a long time ago. At the beginning of each mission, you had to enter the base. In order to do so you had to give the days password in form of an answer to a question, and had to use a wheel cypher to figure it out. I just thought of how it was really an anti pirate device the other day. This is from a game 15 years old, why not do the same thing now? I'd be cheaper, since that is what it's all about now isn't it?

Shigawire · 02-13-10, 07:17 AM

I suspect that this is going to cause the opposite effect of what was intended. Once the wiz-kids get around this horrible DRM, which is inevitable, the game is going to get pirated even more than previous titles.

Brag · 02-13-10, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Shigawire

I suspect that this is going to cause the opposite effect of what was intended. Once the wiz-kids get around this horrible DRM, which is inevitable, the game is going to get pirated even more than previous titles.

Provoking anger on one's client base is a disastrous policy. DRM has provoked anger among tens of thousands submarine gamers. Ubi, wake up!

Sgtmonkeynads · 01-26-10, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Could have done that in SH5, in game messages coded with enigma, and the codes in the paper manual

Hell yeah! Didn't think of that !

It would take all of the Kings Men,and ULTRA to pirate it then!

Dowly · 01-26-10, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl

There was the same thing in Prince of Persia, you arrived in a room with a lot of potions. Only some would give you extra life or open the door, the rest were poison. Depending on which room you had to open the manual at a certain page and go to a certain line to find out which potions to pick up.

Could have done that in SH5, in game messages coded with enigma, and the codes in the paper manual

Every code and deciphering sheet would need to be different on all copies of the game or pirated version would just come with instructions on what and where to input to continue playing.

elanaiba · 01-26-10, 02:35 PM

It was awesome

razark · 01-26-10, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Could have done that in SH5, in game messages coded with enigma, and the codes in the paper manual

I've seen this quite a lot in older games. Open manual to page X, Yth word in paragraph Z? Page Q, the number matching this number is? These are easily defeated by a piece of technology known as the Xerox machine (eh, these days, the scanner). It's just not effective, and the publishers know it.

Not that anything is really effective at stopping a determined pirate. These schemes may slow them down, but they'll get around them. All it does is annoy people who try to legally play the game.

FIREWALL · 01-28-10, 01:17 PM

Since RoF operates about the same way and it's in the bargain bin ay Ebay.

Your 3rd and 4th choice on poll equal about the same.

Looking at the totals here and on other threads most members here give SHV the

for early purchase.

It seems that way on other sites too.

BulSoldier · 01-28-10, 02:38 PM

Yes it will be extremely interestign after the release to lock it and check the results from the poll with the sales and the expected sales.

dogboat · 02-01-10, 01:03 PM

D,R,M. One way to kill off a game!!!!!!!!!!!!!! well done Ubisoft.

View Poll Results: Will the new DRM affect your SH5 purchase
"Makes no difference to me"	191	15.44%
I'll cancel my pre-order & wait	148	11.96%
Wait for UBI to remove the online DRM	761	61.52%
Not going to at all now.	137	11.08%
Voters: 1237. You may not vote on this poll

01-26-10, 01:56 PM	#1
Tomp Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Lancaster, Pa. Posts: 10 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	DRM I have no problem with Steam. In fact, if I had to buy a downloadable game, I'd rather have Steam than some of the other download purchased games I've owned. Most require you to email or call their company to get the license renewed whenever you rebuild or buy a new system. Steam is pretty simple and works well in that regard. My biggest gripe with Ubi has been the quality of the product at release! I wasn't exactly happy to find that SH3 crashed as often as it did at release. In fact, many had problems just getting it installed! SH4 was little better. And with the problems UBI had with Starforce, they should have rejected the scheme before even releasing it. If they didn't know it would cause so many problems they must not have tested it enough! Anyway, I think I'll wait to hear the gripes before getting in this time. Let's see if they learned their lesson. Tom P. __________________ The ocean doesn\'t have a kiddie pool!

01-26-10, 02:00 PM	#2
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	What does Steam have to do with this? __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

01-26-10, 02:09 PM	#6
Sgtmonkeynads Ships Secretary Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MilesCity Montana Posts: 583 Downloads: 614 Uploads: 0	I had a game called Gunboat, a long time ago. At the beginning of each mission, you had to enter the base. In order to do so you had to give the days password in form of an answer to a question, and had to use a wheel cypher to figure it out. I just thought of how it was really an anti pirate device the other day. This is from a game 15 years old, why not do the same thing now? I'd be cheaper, since that is what it's all about now isn't it? __________________ Just help someone.....it makes a difference

01-26-10, 02:35 PM	#11
elanaiba Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,058 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 3	It was awesome __________________ With strength I burn...

02-13-10, 07:17 AM	#7
Shigawire Mate Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Norway, Brønnøysund Posts: 53 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I suspect that this is going to cause the opposite effect of what was intended. Once the wiz-kids get around this horrible DRM, which is inevitable, the game is going to get pirated even more than previous titles.

01-28-10, 01:17 PM	#13
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Since RoF operates about the same way and it's in the bargain bin ay Ebay. Your 3rd and 4th choice on poll equal about the same. Looking at the totals here and on other threads most members here give SHV the for early purchase. It seems that way on other sites too. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

01-28-10, 02:38 PM	#14
BulSoldier Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Burgas/Bulgaria Posts: 550 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	Yes it will be extremely interestign after the release to lock it and check the results from the poll with the sales and the expected sales. __________________ By the hour !

02-01-10, 01:03 PM	#15
dogboat Watch Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: margate kent uk Posts: 24 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Killing sh5. D,R,M. One way to kill off a game!!!!!!!!!!!!!! well done Ubisoft.

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