Lampedusa antisubmarine nets

Very well.. So far I see no one is actually interested in fixing someones faulty ploting error, maybe GWX3 support period is expired I dunno.. But I guess I've learned my lesson that I would like to share with others is: If you find an obvious bug that is not coverd in GWX manual, keep it a secret and don't complain about it too much or ask someone to make a fix on it, even if it can be easily implemented, cuz sooner or later you'll be told in the most famous phrase when supporting is out of luck to "get over it and move on". Personally when I hear these kind of answers these words feels like my worst enemy..Ok I promise I will no longer bother anybody with my "meaningles" GWX related BUG foundings since anyway NO ONE REALLY CARES. Thank You.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by zulus

Very well.. So far I see no one is actually interested in fixing someones faulty ploting error, maybe GWX3 support period is expired I dunno.. But I guess I've learned my lesson that I would like to share with others is: If you find an obvious bug that is not coverd in GWX manual, keep it a secret and don't complain about it too much or ask someone to make a fix on it, even if it can be easily implemented, cuz sooner or later you'll be told in the most famous phrase when supporting is out of luck to "get over it and move on". Personally when I hear these kind of answers these words feels like my worst enemy..Ok I promise I will no longer bother anybody with my "meaningles" GWX related BUG foundings since anyway NO ONE REALLY CARES. Thank You.

I can't say I appreciate your attitude considering the number of posts I have created in offering advice and help.

Now....one piece at a time:

So far I see no one is actually interested in fixing someones faulty ploting error

What plotting error? Do you know this to be a fact?

There have been approximately 25 posts on this thread and EIGHT 8 of the responses are from me.

maybe GWX3 support period is expired I dunno

That is quite correct....you don't know.

FYI the official support has stopped but some of us stick around and offer what support we have time for....check some of my previous posts.

you'll be told in the most famous phrase when supporting is out of luck to "get over it and move on".

You are bang out of order there....care to show me where I post such a phrase regularly?

If your going to quote me then do it in its entirity without cherry picking the pieces that you believe change the context to what your after....the full sentence if you please, the one giving the reason and the rhymn...

The above photo is a perfect example of how a vessel behaves when it looses its waypoint.....steer in a straight line and slow down before impact, then repeatedly attempt to inch forward.

There is no solution....you'll just have to live with it and move on.

The above is what was typed and included the explanation that it was not fixeable.

I have attempted to replicate your problem and have investigated the campaign layer, even to the extent of posting a screenshot.

Unless you can give me an exact date, time and location I am unable to do any more.

You could also consider sending me your campaign folder and I would, once armed with the exact information I mentioned above be able to insert it into one of my test installs and see just what is the cause for the phenomena you are experiencing.

But I do suspect, like at least one other on this thread that the cause is human error by way of a game save, a corrupted file or something you have added that is interfering with the game install.

NO ONE REALLY CARES

YOUR WRONG....SOME OF US HAVE A LONG HISTORY HERE TO THE CONTRARY

[Empty B]

Zulus

I think that Hansa ship isn't default GWX3.
But I'm not 100% sure.
What mods do you have enabled?

[Wreford-Brown]

zulus,

jimbuna has just been voted 'most helpful member' by the subsim community and he goes out of his way to try and help people out. People here generally want to try and help but not every problem has an easy and/or quick solution.

Very few people have used Lampedusa as a starting base (it's the first time I've heard of it being used) so you may be experiencing a problem that no one else has had. Be patient and help us work your problems out.

If you can let us know your mod list and the date you had the problems we can try and replicate the problem to see what's causing it and hopefully come up with a solution.

Originally Posted by Wreford-Brown

zulus,

jimbuna has just been voted 'most helpful member' by the subsim community and he goes out of his way to try and help people out. People here generally want to try and help but not every problem has an easy and/or quick solution.

Very few people have used Lampedusa as a starting base (it's the first time I've heard of it being used) so you may be experiencing a problem that no one else has had. Be patient and help us work your problems out.

If you can let us know your mod list and the date you had the problems we can try and replicate the problem to see what's causing it and hopefully come up with a solution.

Yeah Lampedusa is first time used island for docking by me, but I had to use it because of heavy damages I took from airplanes. I can asure you that my mods are no how related to the issue I've been describing and showing in screeshots. And I realy think it is a human error of ploting the waypoints of exactly Verpostenboot in this harbour as I described in my earlier posts I just wonder why Jimbuna doesn't want to believe it, but rather to blame user for it's fault of saves or whatever. I can say it's not true, since how can you say it's save related bug if I just started the new patrol from Lampedusa and I see such things inside the harbour ?. The first it meets harbour walls and stucks but after few backward attempt he brakes through then he keeps raming an antisubmarine net with his starbord side untill he sinks himself. The year I was docking at Lampedusa is 1942 but I can not tell the precise date but it was deffinetly there at late summer or early autumn.

Originally Posted by Empty B

Zulus

I think that Hansa ship isn't default GWX3.
But I'm not 100% sure.
What mods do you have enabled?

Hansa ship is a part of GWX3 St Naz and Schluese and other units V4 which is fully supported with GWX3

[Wreford-Brown]

You need to give us a little time to get to the bottom of this - 'Can it be done or not' depends on letting us replicate the problem and work out a potential solution, which takes time. I'll need to load up a new career in 1942, dock in Lampadusa, start another game in Lampadusa, check whether I have the same problem, check the _SCR files against the actual path of the Vorpostenboot, work out a potential solution and script it into the _SCR file. This takes a little time especially when RL is brought into play.

I'll keep working on a solution for you, just bear in mind that as Lampadusa isn't a submarine base the Vorpostenboot may not be scripted to lead you out of the harbour but only to patrol the harbour area. Regardless, it shouldn't be running into the walls.

By insulting subsims 'Most Helpful Member' you're not enamouring yourself to anyone. If you don't like the way GWX is working you can always uninstall and ask for a full refund.

Originally Posted by Wreford-Brown

By insulting subsims 'Most Helpful Member' you're not enamouring yourself to anyone. If you don't like the way GWX is working you can always uninstall and ask for a full refund.

I really don't know where have you picked that up, but no insult was done from me to Jimbuna. Unless some emotional hardtalking is an insult in your point of view this means you actually don't know the meaning of an insult as a word.
</p>Now I appreciate the hard work you're going to on try figuring out the solution not for me only, but for all of us who might need to dock at Lampedusa thus preventing Kaleuns from ramming the nets or mines on the approach. So I'm just an initiator to raise a problem and asker for any fix available. Thus I don't want to hear about user fault problems in this situation because I know how things work in SH3, what bugs still remained after 1.4b patch and that some of them not has not been fixed in GWX due to the hardcoding. So it is not a user related problem and in future I would like less first impressions from 'Most Helpful Member' about a problem as a user-fault made but to pay more attention what has been writen in issue description.</p>Thanks for cooperation.

[piri_reis]

Originally Posted by zulus

So it is not a user related problem and in future I would like less first impressions from 'Most Helpful Member' about a problem as a user-fault made but to pay more attention what has been writen in issue description.</p>Thanks for cooperation.

You won't get much help after all these unappreciative comments of yours..

[Kpt. Lehmann]

Originally Posted by zulus

Hansa ship is a part of GWX3 St Naz and Schluese and other units V4 which is fully supported with GWX3

You are incorrect. Only CORE GWX files are "fully supported." The mod I've quoted is not core file material... and our mod team cannot be held responsible in any way for every modification that is assumed to be 'fully compatible with GWX.'

My thoughts are that if one ship is proven to be problematic... it, and any files that it depends on to function... should be removed.

Furthermore, you are being rude. No one here owes you anything at all. Help that you are given here... is a gift... not a given right.

Originally Posted by Kpt. Lehmann

You are incorrect. Only CORE GWX files are &quot;fully supported.&quot; The mod I've quoted is not core file material... and our mod team cannot be held responsible in any way for every modification that is assumed to be 'fully compatible with GWX.'

My thoughts are that if one ship is proven to be problematic... it, and any files that it depends on to function... should be removed.

Furthermore, you are being rude. No one here owes you anything at all. Help that you are given here... is a gift... not a given right.

So you're giving me a hint that maybe Shluese and othe units V4 might cause this problem ? lol I'm afraid you also failed to understand that there is no problems with any ship itself, but there is a problem how ones course is plotted (too close to harbour walls and antisubnets if this is not clear so far). By the way if I may ask does Vorpostenboot class belongs to GWX core files sea roster or does it belongs to GWX3 Shleuse and other Units V4 ?
Furthermore how can you say I'm being rude, when you don't even know me ? What if this is my daily style of communication and point expression huh ?Also pls keep in mind that english is not my native language so some words might sound rude to you when in fact it's not like that how you see it.
Btw you yourself are being rude to me right now talking with me from the hights of your pride. Respect each one and each one will respect you. If any further sorties are needed use a bloody PMs, but please don't trash my thread with spam about who owns who what s&^@!.
Glad we understand each other.. Hopefully.
Cheers.

[Alex]

Originally Posted by zulus

Furthermore how can you say I'm being rude, when you don't even know me ?

Originally Posted by zulus

Very well.. So far I see no one is actually interested in fixing someones faulty ploting error, maybe GWX3 support period is expired I dunno.. But I guess I've learned my lesson that I would like to share with others is: If you find an obvious bug that is not coverd in GWX manual, keep it a secret and don't complain about it too much or ask someone to make a fix on it, even if it can be easily implemented, cuz sooner or later you'll be told in the most famous phrase when supporting is out of luck to "get over it and move on". Personally when I hear these kind of answers these words feels like my worst enemy..Ok I promise I will no longer bother anybody with my "meaningles" GWX related BUG foundings since anyway NO ONE REALLY CARES. Thank You.

Seriously, do you consider that a noble and kind way to ask for help ?
THAT is rude, Sir, since most if not all of us took the bug-fixing process to heart.
Those who can still bring some help nowadays do so when they have time to spare on their computer...
Please be so kind to take that into account.

Originally Posted by jimbuna

I can't say I appreciate your attitude considering the number of posts I have created in offering advice and help.

Now....one piece at a time:


What plotting error? Do you know this to be a fact?

There have been approximately 25 posts on this thread and EIGHT 8 of the responses are from me.



That is quite correct....you don't know.

FYI the official support has stopped but some of us stick around and offer what support we have time for....check some of my previous posts.



You are bang out of order there....care to show me where I post such a phrase regularly?

If your going to quote me then do it in its entirity without cherry picking the pieces that you believe change the context to what your after....the full sentence if you please, the one giving the reason and the rhymn...

The above is what was typed and included the explanation that it was not fixeable.

I have attempted to replicate your problem and have investigated the campaign layer, even to the extent of posting a screenshot.

Unless you can give me an exact date, time and location I am unable to do any more.

You could also consider sending me your campaign folder and I would, once armed with the exact information I mentioned above be able to insert it into one of my test installs and see just what is the cause for the phenomena you are experiencing.

But I do suspect, like at least one other on this thread that the cause is human error by way of a game save, a corrupted file or something you have added that is interfering with the game install.



YOUR WRONG....SOME OF US HAVE A LONG HISTORY HERE TO THE CONTRARY

Ok now we're talking. I'm sorry I had to stir up water like that to attract some more bloody attention to the matter but hopefully for good reasons.. Most probably the lack of cooperation from your side made me feel desperately.. Anyway tell me which files you want to be sent to you exactly ?I understand this can not be fixable in campaign ? So as an alternative idea I was offering to make a map of Lampedusa as an addition to mines.tga I believe ? I need straight answers to the question "Can this be done or not ?" Thanks.