WTH....

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

The violent crime figures of Finland are well below of those of the US. Same goes for Europe as a whole.

Oh you're also a racist. And SteamWake with his racist spin on the 'cracking a head with a history book' - story might also be one. Groovy.

The last refuge of the tyrannt......you're a racist. And if you check the crime numbers for the US it is in majority black on black. Facts don't lie bud. I will allow you your interpretation, because you have no other argument, but it doesn't alieve you of your responsibility to acknowledge Europe's and by extension Finlands tendancy toward violence.

Originally Posted by CastleBravo

The last refuge of the tyrannt......you're a racist. And if you check the crime numbers for the US it is in majority black on black. Facts don't lie bud. I will allow you your interpretation, because you have no other argument, but it doesn't alieve you of your responsibility to acknowledge Europe's and by extension Finlands tendancy toward violence.

Yea facts don't lie and the facts say that the US is more violent then Europe. Not even the US right-wing think tanks try to deny this.

Continue on with your racism, it's just kind of funny how you attack against people who you brought to the US as slaves and then put into ghettos. I guess you don't mind the blacks not considered as a part of the US.

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

Yea facts don't lie and the facts say that the US is more violent then Europe. Not even the US right-wing think tanks try to deny this.

Continue on with your racism, it's just kind of funny how you attack against people who you brought to the US as slaves and then put into ghettos. I guess you don't mind the blacks not considered as a part of the US.

I guess you don't mind the blacks not considered as a part of the US.

Never heard that before. But that shows how misinformed you are. I consider blacks a part of the US, citizens in fact. Like the rest of the folks in the US everyone needs to take responsibility for their actions.

Asd of now more blacks are taking the lives of other blacks at a greater rate than any other demographic. I guess you will call that racist.

But then Fns are racist by calling the US violent.

Now you see how useless the term is when used in the vaccum in which you used it.

[MothBalls]

Originally Posted by CastleBravo

Now you see how useless the term is when used in the vaccum in which you used it.

Good point. He should have never tried to use anything between your ears.

(btw, it's spelled vacuum)

Originally Posted by MothBalls

Good point. He should have never tried to use anything between your ears.

(btw, it's spelled vacuum)

Thank you for the spelling correction. As ususal it shows the lack of argument. Just surrender. Its what your good at.

Award yourself a piece prize.

[Sledgehammer427]

if some kid insulted me and my race and sucker punched me, I'd crack him too. It's not racist, it's standing up for myself.

as for the violent crime thing. Freedom does weird things to people. To many it's some kinda drug and they take it too far. Freedom of almost everything does that to people

Originally Posted by Sledgehammer427

if some kid insulted me and my race and sucker punched me, I'd crack him too. It's not racist, it's standing up for myself.

as for the violent crime thing. Freedom does weird things to people. To many it's some kinda drug and they take it too far. Freedom of almost everything does that to people

With freedom comes responsibility. Not the kind of freedom we see at the G-#?. That is something else. Freedom is allowing other opinions, beliefs, and ways of life, while standing for certain universal principles, which don't overtly harm others.

[AngusJS]

There was another instance of a 10 year old girl bringing a steak knife into school to eat her lunch of steak leftovers.

Some teachers saw this, so they confiscated the knife, and then naturally called the cops, who arrived and naturally arrested her for possession of a weapon on school grounds, and naturally charged her with a felony.

Fortunately, sanity eventually prevailed, and the charges were dropped.

http://www.wftv.com/news/14858405/detail.html

All because of @$#% stupid zero tolerance policies enacted by @$#% stupid people. They're a bit like the brilliant three strikes laws, which can sentence someone to life in prison for shoplifting.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leandro_Andrade

And naturally, the Supreme Court refused to overturn the sentence. Way to go, guys.

[August]

Originally Posted by AngusJS

They're a bit like the brilliant three strikes laws, which can sentence someone to life in prison for shoplifting.

No they aren't at all alike. In the first instance we're talking about a child who, like the Scout in the op, may not have had any violent intentions at all compared to a criminal who made three conscious decisions to commit a crime.

IMO, the former ought to be given some latitude, the latter none at all.

Originally Posted by CastleBravo

I guess you don't mind the blacks not considered as a part of the US.

Never heard that before. But that shows how misinformed you are. I consider blacks a part of the US, citizens in fact. Like the rest of the folks in the US everyone needs to take responsibility for their actions.

Asd of now more blacks are taking the lives of other blacks at a greater rate than any other demographic. I guess you will call that racist.

But then Fns are racist by calling the US violent.

Now you see how useless the term is when used in the vaccum in which you used it.

How should the blacks be responsible for being brought over as slaves and then having been placed in ghettos and segregated from the society etc.? Don't the whites have any responsibility over any of this?

I call poor living standards in the ghetto poor living standards in the ghetto.

Criticising nations is not the same thing as criticising ethnic groups.

Finns have never had any slaves and we haven't pursued a segregationist policy regarding our minorities.

[August]

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

How should the blacks be responsible for being brought over as slaves and then having been placed in ghettos and segregated from the society etc.? Don't the whites have any responsibility over any of this?

You're white. How much responsibility do you bear for this?

[Dowly]

As for slavery in Finland, OTH is quite right in that there have not been any widespread/general slavery here (I'm pretty sure that was the case when we were under Swedish/Russian rule aswell). Which is propably why Finland doesnt have any laws specifially dealing with slavery.

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by August

You're white. How much responsibility do you bear for this?

I'm pretty sure he was referring to the white population in the US (surely you knew that before posting? ).

I'm pretty sure he was referring to the white population in the US

What about if it was a white American who had emigrated from Finland?
How about a native American whose ancestors kept slaves?
Maybe a fella from Mauritania living in the US but still having slaves back home.
It does imply that Herrings white American guilt idea is bollox.

As for slavery in Finland, OTH is quite right in that there have not been any widespread/general slavery here (I'm pretty sure that was the case when we were under Swedish/Russian rule aswell).

Finland had slavery abolished by the Swedes in the 14th C.
Then later when Russia took over they didn't extend the policy of serfdom into the dutchy