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Old 10-09-09, 06:43 PM   #1
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If you still have your old 688 H/K manual, have another look at it. It really explains some things better than the hefty 580-page DW manual. Also, subs are pretty much unchanged (except for button layout), so it's mainly the flyables and of course the FFG where the DW manual comes in handy.
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Old 10-09-09, 09:42 PM   #2
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Yeah. The 688i Hunterkiller book even had a tutorial in it that took you through pretty much everything in a really nice way. I think it does a better job of teaching tactics than the DW manual too.
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Old 10-10-09, 12:55 PM   #3
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IMO the DW Manual is for one kind of person only.

The pure newbie with an huge amount of time to spend in a lost cause.

If you play the MODS, of course, the manual is likely to teach you wrong tells.

The manual will tell you nothing about tactics, just how to use the stations at a very basic level (and it's 500+ pages!)
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Old 10-11-09, 10:11 AM   #4
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There is no substitiute for MP sub combat in a virtual fleet. (Eh Nexus7 ?) We had to work hard
for the following training document, supplied previously on completion of an advanced course in the
Sea Wolves, and compiled by an active serving officer.

See - The RedBook in SUB_DOCS at The Sea Shadows Naval Academy -

http://seashadows.org/Academy/download.html

In case of future difficulty and as a matter of courtesy you may wish to contact Cmdr Apollo at apollo@seashadows.org
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Old 10-13-09, 04:14 PM   #5
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There is no substitiute for MP sub combat in a virtual fleet. (Eh Nexus7 ?) We had to work hard
for the following training document, supplied previously on completion of an advanced course in the
Sea Wolves, and compiled by an active serving officer.

See - The RedBook in SUB_DOCS at The Sea Shadows Naval Academy -

http://seashadows.org/Academy/download.html

In case of future difficulty and as a matter of courtesy you may wish to contact Cmdr Apollo at apollo@seashadows.org
Well actually I came prepared from the start !
Most things can be learned, given a not ever changing subject of study...

Anyway, awesome to see you around, Bellman !
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Old 10-14-09, 12:27 AM   #6
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Well,

I think both the official manual and the community manuals serve their purposes. From the official manual you can learn what each button and station does and the very basics of using the sonar and tma. Since you usually learn only one platform at a time you don't have to read all 500+ pages at one setting but instead focus on those parts that you need atm.

Once you know what every knob and button does (from your choosen platform) you can advance to the relevant community manuals to learn when and why to use those knobs and buttons. Obviously you can always revisit the original manual when you are unsure what a button does or for example how to fire a torpedo.

Using this approach works well IMHO, besides it lessens the workload for those who contribute to the community by providing said manuals and tutorials. Instead of explaining at length the buttonology of every station they can jump right into everything the original manual left out (tactics for starters) and reference any knobology questions to the original manual.
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Old 10-14-09, 06:11 AM   #7
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We had to work hard for the following training document, supplied previously on completion of an advanced course in the
Sea Wolves, and compiled by an active serving officer.

See - The RedBook in SUB_DOCS at The Sea Shadows Naval Academy -

http://seashadows.org/Academy/download.html

In case of future difficulty and as a matter of courtesy you may wish to contact Cmdr Apollo at apollo@seashadows.org
Wow that is a great manual for understanding TMA, it even goes beyond the already clear and simple explanation given in TimmyG00's Tactical Manual. Guys these documents have to be made accessibile on CADC or Subguru websites. How do you expect most players to even look for them on some virtual navy website ?
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Old 10-22-09, 03:54 PM   #8
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Wow that is a great manual for understanding TMA, it even goes beyond the already clear and simple explanation given in TimmyG00's Tactical Manual. Guys these documents have to be made accessibile on CADC or Subguru websites. How do you expect most players to even look for them on some virtual navy website ?
I agree where the h**l was this manual all these years?
Been reading it at work (when my boss is not watching), over the past few days. Really great stuff, section regarding zig TMA is a must.
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Old 10-23-09, 12:56 AM   #9
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G:- OS has posted at CADC in 'Files and links' - Files Repository - DW-Manuals - Red Book.
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