I Dont Understand It

What in Tartaros does religion have to do with this?

Thats easy, methamphetamine + religion = Ted Haggard.
Then again I do know people who have found religion good in getting off the downward spiral.


As for this topic GoldenRivet, there is only really one way . It may not be pleasant and it will cause lots of trouble with the family(but that exists anyway by the sounds of it).
Your in-laws will have to get their daughter reported to child welfare as an unfit mother and have the children made wards of court by the State and taken into care.
Then apply as next of kin(unless the childrens father who you do not mention applies) for legal guardianship.
It is a long process which can be complicated and expensive, and may not even get the desired result, but unless they can get a voluntary agreement with their daughter it is the only viable option.

[Skybird]

Possible answers to the question "Why?" count by the millions, count by all the many moments in a human's life per day that are unique and mean to him something else than to any other human on earth. And they all interact, work together or neutralise each other. An answer found by one person for a given situation, may be meaningless for another person.

Sometimes finding the answer to this question "Why?" can open a road to constructive help, either helping oneself, or somebody else. However, talking as an ex-psychologist here, the importance of understanding the answer to "Why" is overestimated. Knowing that answer does nothing in itself, and it must not necessarily form new options. On the other hand, changes in behavior and deeds getting done can be tried even without knowing the answer to "Why?". Psychobabbling you can undergo for many years, and it leads you nowhere than to your intellect f#cking itself and feeling gay that way. What is really important for people is that they come to their senses that are beyond their thinking, and are of far more basic nature than thinking. And most people are running around with too many ideas and thoughts about and images of themselves anyway.

Focus on the obvious, guard your family, and do what is available to you in measures to safeguard the children you mentioned.

Keep an eye at that women, but keep your distance, and keep your family distant from her as well. Not before a real opportunity arises, you should consider to get engaged in some constuctive endavour to help. But that window of opportunity cannot be opened by you just because you want it, or your wife does. The grip is on her side of the glass.

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Thats easy, methamphetamine + religion = Ted Haggard.
Then again I do know people who have found religion good in getting off the downward spiral.

Well that's the thing isn't it. AA for example is a 100% christian organisation, and being the most 'famous' organisation that tries to rehabilitate alcoholics it's no wonder that quite a few ex-alcoholics are religious.

And the same is true of prisons too, the church has a veritable monopoly when it comes to re-education and downright brainwashing of prisoners. And it's not like a lot of people even consider prisoners right to non-religious things a basic human right. Same is true of old people, lots of force feeding of religious things to old people, and also to soldiers in the army. And of course kids in school. The list goes on and on.

[FIREWALL]

Get those kids to safety then, worry about helping her if she wants it.

Originally Posted by OneToughHerring

Well that's the thing isn't it. AA for example is a 100% christian organisation, and being the most 'famous' organisation that tries to rehabilitate alcoholics it's no wonder that quite a few ex-alcoholics are religious.

And the same is true of prisons too, the church has a veritable monopoly when it comes to re-education and downright brainwashing of prisoners. And it's not like a lot of people even consider prisoners right to non-religious things a basic human right. Same is true of old people, lots of force feeding of religious things to old people, and also to soldiers in the army. And of course kids in school. The list goes on and on.

It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't for the fact that the only thing they shove down peoples throats is Major Monotheistic beliefs, We need some Atheists, Wiccans, Norse, Pagans, Buddhists, Hellenics and every other religion, minor religion and belief group force feeding religious things to people.

You either force feed nothing or you force feed EVERYTHING, in my eyes.

[FIREWALL]

" I Dont Understand It " And niether do some here John.


Not all. Just some.

I never cease to be amazed around here of the ones that claim to be so smart can't, See the " Forest for the Trees "

I couldn't Think as slow as some of you if I tried.

[GoldenRivet]

funny stuff...

[Freiwillige]

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Originally Posted by Freiwillige
its cravings become more important that family, God, Friends (In the real sense and not the trash she associates with).

What in Tartaros does religion have to do with this?

I was using examples of things important to the average person.

I am Atheist