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Old 08-16-09, 10:21 PM   #1
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Our average age of military in the US is 30 years too.

Thanks for the insight though Letum. Though I question some of the Navies ability from some of the threads here. The UK Navy is way underfunded compared to what it was. What do you think about that? They were losing their carriers last I read too. Budget cuts.

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The UK Navy may be underfunded, but it still outclasses a fully funded Argentine Navy. One Royal Navy attack sub could sink the whole thing.

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Old 08-16-09, 11:22 PM   #2
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The UK Navy may be underfunded, but it still outclasses a fully funded Argentine Navy. One Royal Navy attack sub could sink the whole thing.

Never bet against England
I think it would depend on how crippled the UK is by PCness. Assuming that the PCness is overcome by patriotism, I'd think the British subs armed with torps, harpoons, and cruise missles could wreak havoc on any navy.

Then, send in the Royal Buna Brigade; 1 Buna= 50 Argentine soldiers. Game over, time enough to make the evening cricket match.

The US would be a non-factor, as we are too occupied with socialism. Now if Argentina was smart, they'd contribute to obama's and HRC's election fund. Obama, with his glib tongue, would invoke the monroe doctrine again. The British would be overwhelmed by obama's oratory skill and immedetly capitulate to his will.

...or not to be out-foxed, the British allow obama to annex the falklands and let them become states, thus adding 2 more senators and (x) amount of congressmen.

What were we talking about again?
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Old 08-17-09, 07:10 AM   #3
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x2. When put to it, British resolve is no trivial thing. In that regard, Oberon is correct: If the British decide that they want to keep the Falklands, then they are going to keep the Falklands.
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x2. When put to it, British resolve is no trivial thing. In that regard, Oberon is correct: If the British decide that they want to keep the Falklands, then they are going to keep the Falklands.
I don't think they have this resolve anymore.

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I don't think they have this resolve anymore.

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Which was precisely the misjudgement the Argentines made the first time around...
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Old 08-17-09, 08:38 AM   #6
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I don't think they have this resolve anymore.

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I belive you to be mistaken as were the Argentinians first time round.
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Old 08-17-09, 09:13 AM   #7
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The People of the Falklands wont accept argentine governance ever.

The argentines know this now. there is no prestige gain or profit in the
this media age in forcibly subjugating and incarcerating an unwilling people.
they would have to literally occupy by force under the eyes of the world.
not gaining any prestige and although it might distract internal dissent on
invasion day it would only provide more ammunition to the dissenter's in
every subsequent hour.

They were clearly made fun of after the last war in
"An Ungentlemanly act" for not having even the barest
clue what they were going to find, they expected suppressed
spaniards and discovered they were oppressing hostile anglos
and occupying there farms.

there is no real resource gain in Argentinian occupation, and the strategic
location that Britain and the RN hold dear about the islands is a
strategic location that argentina is already located in.

The only real purpose of an occupation ( or just threatening one )
is to divert attention away from massively failed internal policy, staving
off the non confidence of the people for another month.

admittedly there is prestige to be gained in facing down the UK
victoriously but that wont happen Neal is right, and I am in agreement
with Tom Clancy on the weight we should give to a perisher graduate
on the battlefield.

finally the whole thing can be stopped cold by bringing the
falklands into the main of the UK instead of as a colony basically
making it a direct Province, then there is no question of Resolve
as invading the UK is generally a bad Idea, several people better
at it than the argentine's have tried.

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I don't think they have this resolve anymore.

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Why not? If their land gets invaded, they should fight back, if they have the means.
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Old 08-17-09, 11:51 AM   #9
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If anyone is to learn anything from history, let it be never to underestimate the resolve of the British when faced with adversity.

Whilst fully recognising how downsized our military has become in recent decades, don't forget how Maggie used the Argentinian invasion to turn the tide of negative opinion towards her and her government into a positive one.

I reckon Gordon Brown would see any similar opportunity as a political Godsend should the need arise before the next election.

The standing force on the islands are much better prepared this time round and might just hold out long enough for relief to arrive.

I think the major chink in our armour is the feeble air assets on the island.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._1435_Flight_RAF
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4 Typhoons seam an adequate match to the ~10 A4 Skyhawks former
Argentinian Defense Minister Horacio Jaunarena claims Argentinia can field.

Besides, no aircraft at all where present in '82.
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I smell a Hostage Situation comeing.
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Old 08-17-09, 02:37 PM   #12
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4 Typhoons seam an adequate match to the ~10 A4 Skyhawks former
Argentinian Defense Minister Horacio Jaunarena claims Argentinia can field.

Besides, no aircraft at all where present in '82.
That's true.....it simply looks dangerously threadbare/minimalistic to me though.
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