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SUBMAN1 08-16-09 06:09 PM

What would happen if the Falkland war II broke out?
 
Watching this on Military Channel and without a real air capability anymore, I'm thinking The UK would't have a candle to hold in reclaiming them this time around. Their Navy is a phantom of what it was in 1982.

-S

CastleBravo 08-16-09 06:17 PM

What you are really asking is what If Britain stopped subsidising (paying) Argentina for the use of Islas Malvinas?

On their own Britain couldn't hold the islands, but they couldn't hold it last time without allied help. It is half a globe away from Britain.

FIREWALL 08-16-09 06:20 PM

What if..... ( insert a ridicules scenario ) happened. :haha:

SUBMAN1 08-16-09 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIREWALL (Post 1152074)
What if..... ( insert a ridicules scenario ) happened. :haha:

Lets put it this way, I don't think Argentina is forgetting about it. You should watch this video. It is only a matter of time I would think.

-S

nikimcbee 08-16-09 06:29 PM

Is Argentina rattling sabres?

Dowly 08-16-09 06:32 PM

Would Argentina risk it being against UK and possibly it's allies? :hmmm:

CastleBravo 08-16-09 06:33 PM

Britain couldn't hold its home islands in this century. Australia could take them....make England the penal colony...:oops:

FIREWALL 08-16-09 06:43 PM

I've got alot going on in the good ole USA to not give a horses patoot what's going on there. :yep:

May the best man win. :)

Platapus 08-16-09 06:58 PM

What if Superman was a Nazi?

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/78/78jwhatif.phtml
:D

mapuc 08-16-09 07:11 PM

I can tell you all what happen, if...

I lost all the times I played the scenario, on my FC.

Markus

SUBMAN1 08-16-09 07:20 PM

Turn it into a real thought instead of Superman thoughts. This type of ignorance led to WWII.

-S

Letum 08-16-09 07:25 PM

The Argentinians underestimated us last time to the extent that they did not
think we would even try to hold on to the islands, let alone deliver a
devastating blow that would quickly lead to the toppling of the Argentinian
military government. Even they are not capable of thinking that they could
acheive it now.

The Argentinian military was very much at it's peak during the Falklands;
mainly due to the extremely pro-military government. Whilst Argentinian
technology has advanced, the military has shrunk in size and they still lack
the highly trained infantry that the British continue to excel with (SAS,
Blackwatch, etc; most of which have trained on the Falklands at
sometime!).

Our Navy has the same number of carriers available as it did during the
Falklands and the amphibious ability of the Royal Navy has improved
dramatically. Our Submarine force is still highly potent. In six years time
will will posses the world's newest carrier class with a second ship to follow
in 2018. Our current conventional ground/sea missile force was almost
non-existent during the Falklands.

The Falklands it's self is now heavily garrisoned by fresh troops and
hardened veterans of the Middle East. Fortifications have been built on
parts of the island. It's a regular venue for training and wargames. All
manner of scenarios are rehearsed.

At any given time one or more infantry battalions and aircraft carriers are
on 24 hour notice to be deployed to the Falklands. Commitments elsewhere
would not significantly impede first reactions.

Argentina's air force consists of ~35 A4 Skyhawks (from 1976) and 11
Mirage 5 jets (1979). This is contrasted by the 80+ jet aircraft fielded in
1982.
Whilst these planes where a threat in 1982, they are not of serious concern
to the Tornados or Typhoons that could be deployed in much greater numbers by just one of our carriers.

According to THIS report:
Quote:

In a May 2007 op-ed to the conservative Argentine daily La
Nacion, former Defense Minister Horacio Jaunarena declared that the
average age of the country’s military hardware is thirty years. He reported
that the army was operating at 30% of its supposed strength, due to its
limited ability to house and feed its troops, as well as to maintain its
equipment and weaponry. The former official gave other examples, such as
that out of 31 military transport aircraft in inventory, only four were
currently operational. Although the Argentine navy is considered new in
comparison to those found in other countries across the continent, it
remains one of the less potent in terms of its inherent military capacity.

SUBMAN1 08-16-09 07:29 PM

Our average age of military in the US is 30 years too.

Thanks for the insight though Letum. Though I question some of the Navies ability from some of the threads here. The UK Navy is way underfunded compared to what it was. What do you think about that? They were losing their carriers last I read too. Budget cuts.

-S

Letum 08-16-09 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1 (Post 1152096)
This type of ignorance led to WWII.

That is utterly ridiculous.

SUBMAN1 08-16-09 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum (Post 1152104)
That is utterly ridiculous.

How so?


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