The most missing feature in SH III

Jukra · 06-04-09, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by AndyW

With all the mods and workarounds around making this game already a good 400% better compared to the vanilla stock game, what would be the one thing you would like to change if you can?

1. Weather engine for the reasons said
2. Better shallow water operations. Ie. the difficult acoustic conditions, tides, ability to bottom to escape detection. Now it's exactly the wrong way around, it's much harder for U-boat to live in shallow compared to deep waters!

minute · 06-04-09, 08:20 AM

More intelligent ship behaviour (i.e. not just ship zig-zagging along a very predictable route) and better ship phisics, i.e. fixing the insane breaking/acceleration of large ships.

mookiemookie · 06-04-09, 08:45 AM

Wolfpacks, definately. It's what U-boats were known for.

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Originally Posted by Jukra

1. Weather engine for the reasons said
2. Better shallow water operations. Ie. the difficult acoustic conditions, tides, ability to bottom to escape detection. Now it's exactly the wrong way around, it's much harder for U-boat to live in shallow compared to deep waters!

Not quite. Shallow water meant death for a submerged U-boat. In sub warfare, depth is your friend.

Jukra · 06-04-09, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Not quite. Shallow water meant death for a submerged U-boat. In sub warfare, depth is your friend.

It meant death if the opponent could find and fix you in the first place. In shallow waters with fresh and salty water mixing, different temperature waters etc. it was very hard to find a submarine, even during 1980's. Moreover, if there's a lot of skerries etc. even schnorkeling wasn't as risky as in open waters.

onelifecrisis · 06-04-09, 10:42 AM

AI improvements (ships which are not so robotic) is at top of my personal never-gonna-happen-in-SH3 wish list.

Letum · 06-04-09, 10:45 AM

The weather.
I am yet to see a fix that produces a good balance of weather.

FIREWALL · 06-04-09, 11:06 AM

Currents and better thermal layers and all the above.

Warner Von Shultz · 06-04-09, 12:41 PM

I would like to see something slightly more dramatic if you survive the war and you are out at sea than a BDU message telling the war has ended and ordering you to return to the nearest port and the game just ends.

I'd at least like to see the game continue to play until you get to the nearest port. I don't know what the GWX 3.0 mod does concerning the end of the war and I don't know if the date is hardcoded in the game; but if it isn't maybe there could be a status change for all countries and they will turn into nuetral targets and the date could be changed to end a couple of days after the end of the official war. Maybe a month after the war. It would give you time to at least disengage from combat if you are in a hunt and head toward some base of your choosing. You don't even have to be given enough time to head TO port. Just enough time to disengage and autoend your patrol.

Murr44 · 06-04-09, 01:13 PM

Here is a list of things I would like to see:

1) Wolfpacks & fully functioning AI U-boats
2) Surface ships having the ability to launch torpedoes. MTB's would be a lot more of threat as compared to what they are now; a minor pest easily evaded.
3) More balanced weather. Although GWX did try to fix this issue it's still a pain.
4) The ability to choose the time of day when you start patrols.
5) Last but not least, more stable save game behaviour. I have never seen a game with so many issues around saving games. I don't have SH4 so I don't know how stable that is when it comes to saving games. If/when SH5 comes out I really hope these save game bugs get squashed.

06-04-09, 10:42 AM	#5
onelifecrisis Maverick Modder Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: England Posts: 3,895 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 3	AI improvements (ships which are not so robotic) is at top of my personal never-gonna-happen-in-SH3 wish list. __________________ Freedom of speech - priceless. For everything else there's Mastercard.

06-04-09, 10:45 AM	#6
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	The weather. I am yet to see a fix that produces a good balance of weather. __________________

06-04-09, 11:06 AM	#7
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Currents and better thermal layers and all the above. __________________ RIP FIREWALL I Play GWX. Silent Hunter Who ???

06-04-09, 12:41 PM	#8
Warner Von Shultz Watch Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Louisiana, United States Posts: 18 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	I would like to see something slightly more dramatic if you survive the war and you are out at sea than a BDU message telling the war has ended and ordering you to return to the nearest port and the game just ends. I'd at least like to see the game continue to play until you get to the nearest port. I don't know what the GWX 3.0 mod does concerning the end of the war and I don't know if the date is hardcoded in the game; but if it isn't maybe there could be a status change for all countries and they will turn into nuetral targets and the date could be changed to end a couple of days after the end of the official war. Maybe a month after the war. It would give you time to at least disengage from combat if you are in a hunt and head toward some base of your choosing. You don't even have to be given enough time to head TO port. Just enough time to disengage and autoend your patrol. __________________ Sometimes the problem with life is that it gets in the way of enjoying life.

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06-04-09, 08:20 AM	#2
minute Loader Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 87 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	More intelligent ship behaviour (i.e. not just ship zig-zagging along a very predictable route) and better ship phisics, i.e. fixing the insane breaking/acceleration of large ships.

06-04-09, 01:13 PM	#9
Murr44 Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 913 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	Here is a list of things I would like to see: 1) Wolfpacks & fully functioning AI U-boats 2) Surface ships having the ability to launch torpedoes. MTB's would be a lot more of threat as compared to what they are now; a minor pest easily evaded. 3) More balanced weather. Although GWX did try to fix this issue it's still a pain. 4) The ability to choose the time of day when you start patrols. 5) Last but not least, more stable save game behaviour. I have never seen a game with so many issues around saving games. I don't have SH4 so I don't know how stable that is when it comes to saving games. If/when SH5 comes out I really hope these save game bugs get squashed.