External Reserves

Murr44 · 03-22-09, 02:39 PM

The game (both GWX & stock versions) allows you to load external torpedoes in any kind of weather. If you want to add a little realism to to your game then I suggest you adopt this personal rule: only load external torpedoes in calm weather (0-6m waves). If you have GWX you can set your boat to "decks awash" (depth of 6-7m) when loading externals for more immersion.

Torplexed · 03-22-09, 04:04 PM

I've always wondered. If you are loading an externally stored torpedo down into the sub in the game, and the operation is interrupted by a sudden emergency like having to submerge to doge an incoming plane, is the torpedo lost? In real life I imagine that would present quite a dilemma depending on how far the operation had progressed.

Sailor Steve · 03-22-09, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Torplexed

In real life I imagine that would present quite a dilemma depending on how far the operation had progressed.

Yeah.

If the torpedo is still in the storage hold, but the crane is rigged, can you shut the hatch and dive with the crane still up?

If the torpedo is halfway out, how long does it take to get it back in?

If the torpedo is on the deck, bye-bye torpedo over the side - but how long does that take? And the crane is still rigged.

If the torpedo is halfway down the loading hatch, forget it. You have to run with men on deck. You can't dive, since the torpedo hatch leads directly into the torpedo room. You'd better have some real good gunners.

Me, I never load externals unless the wind is at 3 m/s or less. Any water at all washing down the torpedo hatch means potential trouble. And I only do it at a standstill.

Torplexed · 03-22-09, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

If the torpedo is halfway down the loading hatch, forget it. You have to run with men on deck. You can't dive, since the torpedo hatch leads directly into the torpedo room. You'd better have some real good gunners.

Yup. That's the scary part. Those eels weigh a ton and they don't back out easy and there's a warhead on the front so you can't just shove it through, although I imagine the contact primer was off. The last part of the operation would have had you sweating bullets depending on how hotly contested your location was.

Hartmann · 03-22-09, 05:49 PM

It could be a nightmare stay surfaced with a heavy warhead on the deck and see the plane coming and firing machine gun bullets with no time or unable to dive or launch the eel overboard.

what could happen in case of direct 20 mm fire or bomb explosion near of the torpedo ??

it´s one of the main differences of the u-boats compared with US fleet boats, all of the reserves inside ( 24 eels)

RoaldLarsen · 03-22-09, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hartmann

It could be a nightmare stay surfaced with a heavy warhead on the deck and see the plane coming and firing machine gun bullets with no time or unable to dive or launch the eel overboard.

what could happen in case of direct 20 mm fire or bomb explosion near of the torpedo ??

It could be worse. Imagine being chased by a destroyer while you have a torpedo halfway through the hatch. That happened to me a few patrols ago. The DD was zig-zagging to avoid my torpedos, so when he got close, I zigged in the opposite direction to gain the extra 30 seconds I needed to complete the loading operation.

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Originally Posted by Hartmann

it´s one of the main differences of the u-boats compared with US fleet boats, all of the reserves inside ( 24 eels)

But if you were caught on the surface in a fleet boat it would still take forever to get below the surface, and when you did, you couldn't go nearly as far down as a u-boat.

Hartmann · 03-22-09, 09:46 PM

Yes , but us fleet boats had a very good electronics and radar , not only a detector

as i said sometime, u-boats better hull and dive deep, US fleet boats better endurance and electronics

Sailor Steve · 03-23-09, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by RoaldLarsen

But if you were caught on the surface in a fleet boat it would still take forever to get below the surface, and when you did, you couldn't go nearly as far down as a u-boat.

But the point here was that a fleet boat couldn't be caught in that situation, because it had no external reserves.

I don't recall reading about any u-boats getting caught while reloading externals, but I admit my reading on u-boats in general is somewhat less than I'd like.

Anybody have any historical information in that department?

03-22-09, 05:49 PM	#5
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	It could be a nightmare stay surfaced with a heavy warhead on the deck and see the plane coming and firing machine gun bullets with no time or unable to dive or launch the eel overboard. what could happen in case of direct 20 mm fire or bomb explosion near of the torpedo ?? it´s one of the main differences of the u-boats compared with US fleet boats, all of the reserves inside ( 24 eels) __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor

03-22-09, 09:46 PM	#7
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	Yes , but us fleet boats had a very good electronics and radar , not only a detector as i said sometime, u-boats better hull and dive deep, US fleet boats better endurance and electronics __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor

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03-22-09, 02:39 PM	#1
Murr44 Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 913 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	The game (both GWX & stock versions) allows you to load external torpedoes in any kind of weather. If you want to add a little realism to to your game then I suggest you adopt this personal rule: only load external torpedoes in calm weather (0-6m waves). If you have GWX you can set your boat to "decks awash" (depth of 6-7m) when loading externals for more immersion.

03-22-09, 04:04 PM	#2
Torplexed Let's Sink Sumptin' ! Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 5,823 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I've always wondered. If you are loading an externally stored torpedo down into the sub in the game, and the operation is interrupted by a sudden emergency like having to submerge to doge an incoming plane, is the torpedo lost? In real life I imagine that would present quite a dilemma depending on how far the operation had progressed.