Gun Control thread (merged many)

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by Oberon

I can't argue with that, nothing anyone says is going to change anyones mind. I was just pondering if anyone had an answer to the question I posed which was not intended maliciously although perhaps it came across that way, but a genuine question and viewpoint I hold.
In regards to personal safety, well a gun is probably the most effective killing device devised by man, and certainly one of the more user friendly devices.
Well, depending on the gun that is, admittedly.
It would, for people like me who like to see the old guns fired at ranges, also be a shame if guns were completely banned in America because it would end the nice youtube vids from the professionals who explain the various ins and outs of the gun in question (hickok45 for example).
Of course, a gun is only as safe as the person holding it. Can't argue with that either, guns don't fire themselves...well, not yet anyway.
So no, I don't argue for the abolishment of the 2nd Amendment, that would be daft and cause a civil war, but I do agree that some legal means are needed to drill proper gun safety into the idiots who don't practice it. Target identification should be something that's also looked at, but to be fair in the heat of the moment it's pretty hard to be sure so there's that.
I don't have the answers, that's down to Americans, and I wish them well with it, in the meantime us Europeans will probably continue to be baffled by it, because of the culture difference. That is just how it is.

Not sure of your question, but gun ownership was never a legal right given by the 2nd amend. As I said earlier, you saw no congressman in the 1700's shouting he was gonna pass a law to make guns legal. The crowd would've yelled "since when were they illegal" It has been a natural common law right since guns were invented. You guys across the seas gave away your gun rights when you defined gun rights as legal rights, thus giving your govts the right to make them illegal. Gun right advocates in America see the right to hunt for food and self defense a natural common right. The 2nd amend doesn't deny the natural right of gun ownership, just extends it's use in regards to militia use...