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Old 07-10-14, 12:53 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by Betonov View Post
The wars started AFTER some people went to reverse what Tito did.
And there were no wars when Tito was alive. Titos Yugoslav uni-identity man was a successefull war prevention project, unfortunately successefully reversed 10 years later by individuals with personal ambitions.

No-one went to war after 1991 because they were forced to live together.
They went to war because they were brainwashed AFTER Tito died.

How do I know ?? I live on the ashes of that country and I listen about the good times from Slovenes, Serbs, Bosnians, Croats and Macedonians, when no-one hated each other.

How do you know??
You just prove my point. Tito failed. He did not delete the underlying identities, he tried, and he couldn't. After Tito was gone, they broke their way once again.

Or look at the Ukrainian conflict - the same. Stalin moved people by the millions. Millions died, huge resettlement projects throughout the Soviet Union. Suppression of Muslim republics in the south. Then, the USSR gone - and eruption of multiple conflicts.

Look at the artificial border-drawing by Western imperialists in the ME, the states formed that way, where beliefs and tribes got stuffed together that do not go well together. The whole region is a powderkeg. You remove the dictator that held the lid on the kettle by raw power - and the thing exploded imemdiately.

Look at the 70 years of sleeping of Islam in Turkey, where Attaturk tried to overcome traditional Islam and form a modern, Western society. Erdioghan took less than one decade to end that experiment and reverse it. Turkey is on its way back into the pre-Attaturk era. Conservative Islam was never gone - it was suppressed, so it pulled back and rested some decades, and now its back in full force.

You cannot change historically grown identities of regions and people by power and force and pressure.

The EU doing it now - it will terribly backfire one day. If you think the days of war are over in Europe, then you are wrong.
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