Conspiracies, sheeple, the universe and everything

[Mittelwaechter]

@ Dowly

CIT - NSA - Darius Prather ~42:00 speaks of pivoting up too.

Mr Turcios ~ 22:30 said the plane "lift up a little bit, to get over - to the side of the bridge". (the northern side of the bridge - north of the light poles)
To get over the road - you are right. If you lift an airliner at 500 knots (FDR!) a little bit over the road, how do you bring it down again to hit the Pentagon at ground level?
You have ~0.89 seconds to lift and down it again. (just a rough estimation!)

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Gopher06 circled the Pentagon, then headed west - back where he came from. Time enough for all to watch him over the Pentagon at 2000 feet.

My airliner was "bunking right" - went over the roof - and disappeared. Probably climbing and heading south - Roberts Roosevelt saw the Jet over the southern parking lot.
That's the airport direction. Take offs were banned at Reagan Airport, but no landings. Maybe my stunt pilot simply hopped over the I 395 and landed there.
It would be not unusual to see an airliner coming this way, rather low, "passing" the Pentagon, flying over the Interstate and landing at Reagan National Airport.

Just curious - I simply explained why my jetliner wasn't painted the AA colours on page 8.
But I didn't find a claim it wasn't. Why did Ryan Mackey finally list this? Obviously someone claimed that somewhere.

From surfin 'one of Steve's links:

An aircraft at Elgin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be substituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted into a drone [a remotely controlled unmanned aircraft.] Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rendezvous south of Florida.

I guess it's from the Northwood paper (should have noted it)

Passengers would be in the plot this way, using aliases. The relatives situation still unclear to me.

Concerning the listed, written witness' claims:

William Lagasse:

Sgt. William Lagasse, a Pentagon police dog handler, the son of an aviation instructor, was filling up his patrol car at a gas station near the Pentagon when he noticed a jet fly in low. He watched as the plane plowed into the Pentagon. Initially, he thought the plane was about to drop on top of him -- it was that close. Lagasse knew something was wrong. The 757's flaps were not deployed and the landing gear was retracted.

No mention of his statement the Jetliner was north of CITGO here. With CIT he didn't claim to see the liner hitting the Pentagon.

Terry Morin:

I can’t remember exactly what I was thinking about at that moment, but I started to hear an increasingly loud rumbling behind me and to my left. As I turned to my left, I immediately realized the noise was bouncing off the 4-story structure that was Wing 5. One to two seconds later the airliner came into my field of view. By that time the noise was absolutely deafening. ... I estimate that the aircraft was no more than 100 feet above me (30 to 50 feet above the FOB) in a slight nose down attitude. The plane had a silver body with red and blue stripes down the fuselage. I believed at the time that it belonged to American Airlines, but I couldn’t be sure. It looked like a 737 and I so reported to authorities. Within seconds the plane cleared the 8th Wing of BMDO and was heading directly towards the Pentagon. Engines were at a steady high-pitched whine, indicating to me that the throttles were steady and full. I estimated the aircraft speed at between 350 and 400 knots. The flight path appeared to be deliberate, smooth, and controlled. As the aircraft approached the Pentagon, I saw a minor flash (later found out that the aircraft had sheared off a portion of a highway light pole down on Hwy 110). As the aircraft flew ever lower I started to lose sight of the actual airframe as a row of trees to the Northeast of the FOB blocked my view. I could now only see the tail of the aircraft. I believe I saw the tail dip slightly to the right indicating a minor turn in that direction. The tail was barely visible when I saw the flash and subsequent fireball rise approximately 200 feet above the Pentagon.

His CIT claim was totally different. But he was not filmed and I have no impression of his credibility.

These written reports of witnesses are highly doubtable.
CIT did a pretty good job in filming them and questioning critically.
Would be great to have the same footage from witnesses backing the official report.

The Cementary workers were reliable, not sure about the last one.
The Pentagon Police Officers too, as the CITGO worker.
Sean Boger from the heliport stated the incoming airliner definitively on the CITGO north either.

If you consider these witnesses to be right, (why should they lie?) - it is impossible the airliner hit the light poles. And it could not have hit the Pentagon, because the internal damage followed the CITGO south path and the light poles. The cab drivers story isn't matching either. The FDR reads the cockpit cabin door wasn't opened during the whole flight. How did Hanjour got behind the controls? Especially when he wasn't on the passanger list, not at the check in and 99% not on the plane? Did he beam himself into the plane and into the cockpit?
EDIT: And the radar operators stated, the 270° right turn to approach the Pentagon from the west was perfect and jet fighter like. Hanjour couldn't even handle a Cessna 176.

I doubt the official report on the Pentagon attack. After doing my research even more.