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Old 04-10-13, 06:47 AM   #11
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Religion in itself is not the end of "free speech, free opinion, freedom in general."
You just advocated for the first steps towards it, and spend a whole posting to deny that. All what you implied and posted, says "religious people's practice first and unlimited, all others have to live with it and have to step back where they fell affected".

That is religious tyranny, plain and simple. Of course you will continue to claim the opposite you are meaning/saying/thinking, I know I know. But you contradict yourself.

I'm not caring for the parties you tthrow in your household. But when the noise becomes such that me and nweighbvours cannot sleep, cannot live our own life without needing to realise your party day in day out, cannot play pour own TVs and radios without simultaneously participating in your show, then I come over and kick you around until you stop messing up our lives becasue you want to have party "your style".

It may be your house. Your house and property has borders beyond which you have no right to annoy people. I do not care for the colour on the walls in other people's houses, nor do I usually care for what the believe in, or not, and why, as long as they do not damage other humans (including their children). But when people run around and tell everybody day in day out that the colour of their walls is so wonderful and why one does not do it like them, too, and that public buildings should be painted like that, too, then it starts to become a problem for everybody else.

Keep thy religion to thyself. There it must not concern anybody else, there you can believe as often and strong and long as you want, nobody will care. And that is how it should be, and that is how you are free and the others as well. Where your religion claims it must be aggressively spread and offensively preached, it becomes an aggressor and invader. And that is where tolerance ends and the boots start kicking religious butts - in self-defense. We must not want our freedom from religion sacrificed for your religion. Build a club house, have a chart at the entrance inviting people to come in and check you out, if that is what you want. That'S the non-invasive, civil, polite way to do it. Walking from door to door in start preaching and missionising, already illustrates the basic aggressive attitude behind that religion that wants to claim more and more for itself. First the privacy of others. Than laws and rights. Then others freedoms. Then the school'S curriculum. Finally the policy of the state.

I'm even willing to call to arms to prevent that happening once again, if needed.
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