Hillary Clinton declares 'gay rights are human rights'

[Takeda Shingen]

Originally Posted by Skybird

No, thatz is a simplification. It is about protecting a status of an institution that exists probaaly not without reasons since centuries and millenias, first as a lose form of living together, later further institutionalised. And the likelihood of birthrates has something to do with the wide acceptance this model has found.

Again, what rights are being retracted by allowing gay marriage? Who is losing their way of life?

The damage gets done by relativising something that has an outstanding importance and value, making it less outstanding while it remaisn to be important. That way, be become more ignorrant of something important, even start to deny the relevance of said importance. The institution of family is under fire since deacdes, and thus it slowly declined, falls apart, gets marginalsied. Some want it due to their hate ion the churches doghma. Some want it because their left idoelogy demands them to form hman colel,ctives where an indepednently exiosting social community like a family is seen as a thread from individuality to the model of collective that leftist ideas in the end all want. Then there are those who think profit interests and a maximisation of mechniamkjs that tailor humans to the needs of the economy, overrule natural features of humans and demographics relevancies of ciommunity. ASnd then there are the gender-m,ainstreamers for whom the mother-role is an offence of women and for whom the denying of any psychological differences in both sexes is just a tool to push not only equal rights for women, but to declare total arbiotrariness of formiung gender idntiies in no longer males and females but just neutral humans that are not male or female by nature, but by social learning exclusively. In other words, it is about control and ideology.

So now allowing gay marriage will eliminate all gender roles? It has been proven time and time again that homosexual parents are just as capable as heterosexual parents in raising their children. Those children are perfectly well-adjusted.

and then we wonder why the frustration tolerance for problems in patrtnerships is declining, couples marry and separate carelessly, and people think about their own party-life and career first, raising families second - if at all? Mothers get offended by calling them not mothers anymore (since that now is sexual discrimination), males must behave as if they are not male, but as typically female as women are, any typöical charactersoics in bahviour between young boys and girls get more and more disalowed and supressed in education and school, a systemtic education towards uncompetitiveness takes over, an infantilisation should cure the egoism of the 80's juppies, and lacking fighting spirit even leads to competitive team sports and martial arts getting banned in some European schools occasionally...

So you are now laying divorce rates on homosexual marriage as well?

Have we all lost our marbles?

No, not all of us.