Germany back than, vs Isreal now

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Originally Posted by jumpy

To suggest that these images have no relevance to the current ME situation or that it is somehow an attack on the jewish nation is disingenuous at best.
All too often the cry of intolerance or anti-semitism is trundled out and ends up completely overtaking the original point; which is the same for governments all over the world. Refuting a political and ideological government policy is not racist or anti semitic, nor is it anti palestinian or anti islamic, just as the oposite of these is not pro-israeli, or pro-palestinian, or pro-islamic, despite what agitators would try and convince otherwise.

With all due respect, the vast majority of us were not decrying anti-semitism about this, merely that the comparison and portrayals being compared on this site are completely void of any semblance of context. Much of what is being shown are tricks of photography or taking images completely out of context.

Comparison:

1. Jewish men with their arms raised in surrender: likely being rounded up either to be sent to a ghetto, concentration camp, or simply to be murdered. Regardless, they were going to be killed, even if they had done nothing wrong.

2. The Palestinian man with his pants lowered and the Israeli pointing a weapon at him: Likely he was stopped because he was acting suspiciously and was suspected of carrying some kind of weapon or being a suicide bomber. Presumably, once he was determined not to be a threat, he was allowed to go on his way, unhindered and unharmed. You cannot blame the Israeli soldier for not taking a chance on this (as it has been a fairly common occurrence). Moreover, there is no way that the same could be said of the people in the Nazi-era picture.

You cannot compare the walls of Auschwitz to the wall that Israel has erected. It's apples and oranges. One was designed to keep a people confined so that killing them would be easier, the other was designed to make it harder for people who want to kill to get into a country and accomplish that goal.

The deaths and wounding of children is a tragedy, and Israel should do everything that it possibly can in order to prevent the injury and deaths of children, even when trying to target terrorist leaders. However, let us not forget that in the past, busloads of Israeli children have been targeted by terrorists for doing nothing more harmful than simply going to school.

Now, I will readily admit that I am Jewish, and staunchly pro-Israel to boot. This is not to say that I think that the Israeli government is right 100% of the time. It's not. But I strongly disagree with any assertion that this is even a remotely fair or valid comparison.