stop whining !! Now !!

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by janh

Hmmh, reading this thread I wonder who is the whiner here and what/who is being whined about? A few very young pals getting upset that someone critisizes their new toy?

I think at Subsim there are a lot of old customers that have bought at least one of the previous silent hunter titles, and who voice their honest critique and expectations as to what they would call an improvement of SHIII, and what they would like to see and what is not an important part of a simulation engine for them. Some, eh most of the people here (see polls, hard numbers are luckily not discussable) also voice their strong disagreements with the "single player online DRM", which come with significant disadvantages and clearly hits the truthful customer more than piracy. For some, like me, the OSP/DRM is a not a way I can go -- because I simply don't have reliable internet at all times, and also because of principle (why does single player need a permanent connection? Why would my car need to be permanently be connected to a gas station?????)

I am presently out of country and have a slow internet connection here in Rio. Bad luck some would say, but I would say a customer less. It just doesn't work for me.

Well said Jah.While I am not an old customer, SH 4 was first SH game I have owned and first subsim I ever played, I love it, esp with the great mods.While I prefer US side of things, just find it more interesting, I planned to purchase and play SH 5 in order to support the franchise and see the next evolution, assumed it would be great.However, the letters DRM changed that for me.Things changed not because my internet is unreliable, it is actually very reliable but out of principle.I am in my early 20's and one thing serious issue I have with most people my age is they have no principles or do(pretend) they don't mind bending them for the smallest reasons.I have mine and do my best to adhere to them.DRM is an example of whats wrong with business and only way to stop it is to make it known that many of us disapprove and make their sales figures lower.Perhaps they will learn, I bet they will.
I think it does boil down to what you said, certain members do not want their new toy to be picked apart for its oh so obvious flaws...DRM, arcadish look etc