Women on Subs? NEAL!

Bubblehead Nuke · 09-27-09, 10:25 PM

In this era of 'correctness' I am positive that they will pass this and you will have a dozen or more ladies on board a number of submarines.

It will last till half of them end up pregnant. They will want on board till they find that sub life is not the romantic/matcho thing they thought it was.

I can think of a DOZEN out of the way places a couple could make noise and never be heard. Even with a watchstander walking within 5 feet of you. Thus you have to worry about that sudden Oooops AFTER you have already left port.

Also, a functioning nuclear reactor and a female reproductive system do NOT work well together. Want to know the IMMEDIATE reaction to a pregnant female on board with a critical reactor? Get her off the boat NOW. Oh, and lets not forget about all those carcinogens floating around that are KNOWN to cause birth defects.

With qualified bubbleheads being a scarse commodity, you have to pull the men back off of shore duty to replace the now inelegible for sea duty ladies. Doing that will DESTROY moral. Just think, you know you FINALLY get that shore duty to have wanted for 5 years and 6 months later you have to go back because someone forgot her diaphram. Oh yeah, and the detailer says he will fix it right after this depoyment you are now going on...After all, she only has a year of shore duty after the birth before she has to return to the boat. Depending on when she left, that can be almost 2 YEARS off the boat.

When she returns, she is going to have to re-qual all over again. Not bad on a 6 year enlistment (presuming it was that long in the first place). Yep, the USN is going to gets its money worth. Two years training just to get them to the boat.... and then.. 4 years MAX unless they get pregnant. Sure, you can use them elsewhere, but the training they get is rather SPECIFIC to submarines. If you decide to use them elsewhere, you now have to retrain them AGAIN.

Case in point here: While I was in, Desert Storm I was just starting. They decided to deploy the USS L.Y. Spear (AS-36) to the combat area for support services. Over one THIRD of her crew were ladies. When then got the depoyment orders damn if over HALF of the female crew suddenly got with child. I tell you, if you had a single lady friend on the tender you had to look out. They were LOOKING for.. well.. you know, and they were NOT shy about it. They had to GUT the crews of the 2 other sub tenders in Norfolk to get them underway. Oh yeah, the moral was great with the male sailors. I remember it will to this day. We did not get decent work out of the tender shops for about 6 months.

I support the IDEA, but the realities of the situation preclude any chance of this coming out good for the USN.

Before you get me wrong. I am VERY pro-intergration of the genders. However, there are situations where it just does not work. This is one of them. Now, if they want to FORCE a temporary sterilization for them upon the commitment to the submarine force, I can endorse it 1000%. It removes the ONE thing that they can use to get off the boat that we could not use. We could not use it to get off, they should not either. After all, it IS a volenteer force. They want to be equal, then make them equal.

One boat, One crew, One shaft, One screw -- Fast attack forever!

09-27-09, 10:25 PM	#15
Bubblehead Nuke XO Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 435 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	In this era of 'correctness' I am positive that they will pass this and you will have a dozen or more ladies on board a number of submarines. It will last till half of them end up pregnant. They will want on board till they find that sub life is not the romantic/matcho thing they thought it was. I can think of a DOZEN out of the way places a couple could make noise and never be heard. Even with a watchstander walking within 5 feet of you. Thus you have to worry about that sudden Oooops AFTER you have already left port. Also, a functioning nuclear reactor and a female reproductive system do NOT work well together. Want to know the IMMEDIATE reaction to a pregnant female on board with a critical reactor? Get her off the boat NOW. Oh, and lets not forget about all those carcinogens floating around that are KNOWN to cause birth defects. With qualified bubbleheads being a scarse commodity, you have to pull the men back off of shore duty to replace the now inelegible for sea duty ladies. Doing that will DESTROY moral. Just think, you know you FINALLY get that shore duty to have wanted for 5 years and 6 months later you have to go back because someone forgot her diaphram. Oh yeah, and the detailer says he will fix it right after this depoyment you are now going on...After all, she only has a year of shore duty after the birth before she has to return to the boat. Depending on when she left, that can be almost 2 YEARS off the boat. When she returns, she is going to have to re-qual all over again. Not bad on a 6 year enlistment (presuming it was that long in the first place). Yep, the USN is going to gets its money worth. Two years training just to get them to the boat.... and then.. 4 years MAX unless they get pregnant. Sure, you can use them elsewhere, but the training they get is rather SPECIFIC to submarines. If you decide to use them elsewhere, you now have to retrain them AGAIN. Case in point here: While I was in, Desert Storm I was just starting. They decided to deploy the USS L.Y. Spear (AS-36) to the combat area for support services. Over one THIRD of her crew were ladies. When then got the depoyment orders damn if over HALF of the female crew suddenly got with child. I tell you, if you had a single lady friend on the tender you had to look out. They were LOOKING for.. well.. you know, and they were NOT shy about it. They had to GUT the crews of the 2 other sub tenders in Norfolk to get them underway. Oh yeah, the moral was great with the male sailors. I remember it will to this day. We did not get decent work out of the tender shops for about 6 months. I support the IDEA, but the realities of the situation preclude any chance of this coming out good for the USN. Before you get me wrong. I am VERY pro-intergration of the genders. However, there are situations where it just does not work. This is one of them. Now, if they want to FORCE a temporary sterilization for them upon the commitment to the submarine force, I can endorse it 1000%. It removes the ONE thing that they can use to get off the boat that we could not use. We could not use it to get off, they should not either. After all, it IS a volenteer force. They want to be equal, then make them equal. One boat, One crew, One shaft, One screw -- Fast attack forever!