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Old 06-17-09, 09:22 PM   #21
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Except that report, which was politically motivated and extremely controversial as I recall, doesn't actually say that the right wing is any more bigoted than the left wing
Its understood:
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(U//LES) The DHS/Office of Intelligence and Analysis (I&A) has no specific information that domestic rightwing
* terrorists are currently planning acts of violence, but rightwing extremists may be gaining new recruits by playing on their fears about several emergent issues. The economic downturn and the election of the first African American president present unique drivers for rightwing radicalization and recruitment.

(U//LES) Threats from white supremacist and violent antigovernment groups during 2009 have been largely rhetorical and have not indicated plans to carry out violent acts. Nevertheless, the consequences of a prolonged economic downturn—including real estate foreclosures, unemployment, and an inability to obtain credit—could create a fertile recruiting environment for rightwing

extremists and even result in confrontations between such groups and government authorities similar to those in the past.
(U//LES) Rightwing extremists have capitalized on the election of the first African American president, and are focusing their efforts to recruit new members, mobilize existing supporters, and broaden their scope and appeal through propaganda, but they have not yet turned to attack planning.
The far right having more openly bigoted groups than the left is just common knowledge.

Is all this a revelation? Some things are just common knowledge, like the fact that Israel has nuclear weapons (no "proof", but everyone knows it), or that Iran's current regime suppresses women. (What! You mean that some Iranian women don't enjoy being garbed in mummy outfits in the middle of the desert! Prove it!). Some things are just understood.

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What did not happen with the last three democratic presidents?

' Acts of violence against abortion clinics and their employees have been carried out across the United States throughout the 1980s and 1990s.
There were 1,700 acts of violence against abortion providers between 1977 and 1994, with four people killed in 1994 and one in 1993, according to statistics from the National Abortion Federation. The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms has logged 167 attacks against abortion clinics over the past 15 years.
In 1984, there were 18 bombings against abortion clinics. In 1993, there were 78 death threats aimed at clinic employees. And, in 1996, bombings, threats and harassment affected about one-third of U.S. abortion clinics.'

The OK City Fed Bldg was bombed during the Clinton Administration. This has nothing to do with Obama and being black. Nothing new here. The only difference is these media folks are now accessible by email such as Shepard Smith. So, of course it seems more than normal when it really has not changed at all over the years.
I didn't say that right wing extremism didn't exist during previous democratic presidencies. Just that some of the increased rancor that Sheppard Smith is noting is the result of a core of far right bigotry responding to an African American president. Those groups can't handle seeing a president that doesn't look like they do, so there's a increased amount of visible/open hate coming from that sect.
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