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View Poll Results: Who do you think will be the next President of the United States?
Obama/Biden 80 56.74%
McCain/Palin 61 43.26%
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Old 11-04-08, 12:26 PM   #571
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Regardless who wins, I just hope the TV Networks keep their mouth' shut and don't call the election early.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/04/us...=1&oref=slogin
Too late. CBS started indoctrinating it's viewers last night by explaining, in very simple laymans terms, how their various polls were to be conducted during the election... I suspect we'll see some of the "prognostications" again this election as in the past...
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Old 11-04-08, 12:27 PM   #572
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Regardless who wins, I just hope the TV Networks keep their mouth' shut and don't call the election early.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/04/us...=1&oref=slogin
Good luck on that one. The network that calls the winner (correctly) first gets to say "we told you so first", and in their eyes, that's "journalism". Never mind if it's a guess or based on skimpy statistics. They've got to get the "scoop".
You are correct of course.
Not to mention that an early call can influence voter, if not probably influence the outcome to some extend.
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Old 11-04-08, 12:30 PM   #573
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Regardless who wins, I just hope the TV Networks keep their mouth' shut and don't call the election early.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/04/us...=1&oref=slogin
Good luck on that one. The network that calls the winner (correctly) first gets to say "we told you so first", and in their eyes, that's "journalism". Never mind if it's a guess or based on skimpy statistics. They've got to get the "scoop".
You are correct of course.
Not to mention that an early call can influence voter, if not probably influence the outcome to some extend.
That's what really makes me puke when some news reporter calls themselves a "journalist". They do what they need to do to sell commercials and win prizes for reporting, but there is no concern for what their actions could do to alter something as important as an election.
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Old 11-04-08, 12:32 PM   #574
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Regardless who wins, I just hope the TV Networks keep their mouth' shut and don't call the election early.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/04/us...=1&oref=slogin
Good luck on that one. The network that calls the winner (correctly) first gets to say "we told you so first", and in their eyes, that's "journalism". Never mind if it's a guess or based on skimpy statistics. They've got to get the "scoop".
You are correct of course.
Not to mention that an early call can influence voter, if not probably influence the outcome to some extend.
Well, what do you expect? the media wants to make money. And money they get by showing what the viewers want to see. Always remember, the nonsense you get is the nonsense the audience asks for, it's not vice versa.
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Old 11-04-08, 12:34 PM   #575
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Regardless who wins, I just hope the TV Networks keep their mouth' shut and don't call the election early.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/04/us...=1&oref=slogin
Good luck on that one. The network that calls the winner (correctly) first gets to say "we told you so first", and in their eyes, that's "journalism". Never mind if it's a guess or based on skimpy statistics. They've got to get the "scoop".
You are correct of course.
Not to mention that an early call can influence voter, if not probably influence the outcome to some extend.
Well, what do you expect? the media wants to make money. And money they get by showing what the viewers want to see. Always remember, the nonsense you get is the nonsense the audience asks for, it's not vice versa.
Not really.. if you look at the ratings and the election campaign coverage so far, the ratings for CBS, MSNBC and CNN went down, thanks to their bias. The media is follwoing its own politcial agenda here, and that is just sad.
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Old 11-04-08, 12:40 PM   #576
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Well, what do you expect? the media wants to make money. And money they get by showing what the viewers want to see. Always remember, the nonsense you get is the nonsense the audience asks for, it's not vice versa.
The nonsense we get is what the network thinks we ask for. There once was a time when journalism was reporting facts and not reporting them until they were known. This is a lost art. There don't appear to be any journalists left in this country, only "talking heads".
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Old 11-04-08, 12:48 PM   #577
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The nonsense we get is what the network thinks we ask for. There once was a time when journalism was reporting facts and not reporting them until they were known. This is a lost art. There don't appear to be any journalists left in this country, only "talking heads".
Yeah... I miss the days of Cronkhite and the "Huntley and Brinkly Report". THAT was good media jounalism IMO...
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Old 11-04-08, 01:01 PM   #578
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Well, regardless who wins the office, I will support him as President. I may not support his policies (all or some), and if he goes too far against my grain, he may lose my support (Bush, term 2), but at least initially, I have to give my President my support.
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Old 11-04-08, 01:05 PM   #579
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And what's up with Black Panther's "guarding" polling station in Philly? There are some reports of voter intimidation in Philadelphia. BP dudes brandishing night sticks.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=aCeD1RcJjAg

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Old 11-04-08, 01:05 PM   #580
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Well, regardless who wins the office, I will support him as President. I may not support his policies (all or some), and if he goes too far against my grain, he may lose my support (Bush, term 2), but at least initially, I have to give my President my support.
Well said.
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Old 11-04-08, 01:08 PM   #581
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Well, regardless who wins the office, I will support him as President. I may not support his policies (all or some), and if he goes too far against my grain, he may lose my support (Bush, term 2), but at least initially, I have to give my President my support.
Well said.
Exactly, every president has whacked policies. No matter, I support them. Be it BO or McSame, I will support them unless there is a policy that is really outlandish.
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Old 11-04-08, 10:53 PM   #582
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Whoop! There it is!

The next two years should be a gas.
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Old 11-04-08, 11:04 PM   #583
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Well, regardless who wins the office, I will support him as President. I may not support his policies (all or some), and if he goes too far against my grain, he may lose my support (Bush, term 2), but at least initially, I have to give my President my support.
I agree. And will give Mr. Obama a chance. Ultimately we have no choice. I trust the system. If he does the public wrong, he will be gone in 4 years. Simple as that. While I'm hesitant about Obama, he will start with a clean slate with me.
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Old 11-04-08, 11:09 PM   #584
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I'd say you've all heard by now, but anyway, Obama won.
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Old 11-05-08, 06:00 AM   #585
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Finally I predicted correctly for a change. In the primaries I had picked Hillary Clinton to win easily and I also picked Romney on the Republican side. Wrong on both counts. When Obama shocked me by defeating Hillary I thought that if this guy who had come our of nowhere managed to defeat the tough Clinton machine then why can't he go all the way?

I congratulate Senator Obama on his victory. I thought his victory speech last night was excellent. It was not hugely triumphunt in tone and also carried an air of reality in that the times ahead are going to be tough.

I also thought that Senator McCain was very gracious in defeat and delivered a speech last night which harked back to the old days of McCain. The real McCain that I once knew and respected.

I can only hope that America comes together, gets through this tough economic time, and comes out the other side stronger and better for it.
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