Slam McCain/Palin (merged)

[Rockin Robbins]

OOOOOOO, two points for Skybird there on a short post. McCain and company have done a very poor job of communication. They should have outed Obama long ago and got that out of the way and accepted as truth, especially in regard to his true function as a community organizer, a story yet to emerge.

But AFTER that was done, it is their responsibility to communicate a compelling vision of what America is and where we are going. Especially in the last debate, chance after chance escaped McCain to make vital and important points to communicate the vision. He passed every time. If for no reason than that he has not communicated well, McCain deserves to be behind. I'll vote for him, but I expect that he will lose. At this point, he doesn't deserve to win.

[Konovalov]

I would agree on the above from RR. Too many mixed messages being sent out by the McCain campaign. Their strategy looks all too confused. I doubt that they can pull it back from here.

Also there have been a hell of a lot of ugly looking scenes at McCain/Palin rallies and town hall meetings which aren't exactly going to turn on swing/undecided voters.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Serves McCain right. Isn't his camp telling openly that they are not about issues, but personalities?

It is always a popularity contest. It harkens back to high school. The school brain with an IQ of 180 will not beat the football jock. Show Obama in a unfavorable light concerning his association and he becomes unpopular. Just another tactic in politicians bags of tricks.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by Konovalov

Also there have been a hell of a lot of ugly looking scenes at McCain/Palin rallies and town hall meetings which aren't exactly going to turn on swing/undecided voters.

You mean the long anti-Palin Booooh at the hockey opener?

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

OOOOOOO, two points for Skybird there on a short post. McCain and company have done a very poor job of communication. They should have outed Obama long ago and got that out of the way and accepted as truth, especially in regard to his true function as a community organizer, a story yet to emerge.

But AFTER that was done, it is their responsibility to communicate a compelling vision of what America is and where we are going. Especially in the last debate, chance after chance escaped McCain to make vital and important points to communicate the vision. He passed every time. If for no reason than that he has not communicated well, McCain deserves to be behind. I'll vote for him, but I expect that he will lose. At this point, he doesn't deserve to win.

It is not over yet RR. McCain has another chance to drive his point home...if he has one.

[Skybird]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

It is always a popularity contest. It harkens back to high school. The school brain with an IQ of 180 will not beat the football jock. Show Obama in a unfavorable light concerning his association and he becomes unpopular. Just another tactic in politicians bags of tricks.

Poisenous little movie there is: "Election" (1999).

http://www.metacritic.com/video/titl...ion?q=election

I often thought of that movie since Palin was introduced.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Poisenous little movie there is: "Election" (1999).

http://www.metacritic.com/video/titl...ion?q=election

I often thought of that movie since Palin was introduced.

Although I have not seen this movie, I likened Obama campaign in the same light...running for class president.

[Frame57]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

Digital Trucker - what you should find most humorous is the fact that a South African is talking about un-American activities! :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

That's just fricking hallarious! :rotfl:

-S

No doubt, I almost forgot about that one. teah the people who made American Slavery look like Kindergarten.

[Frame57]

Originally Posted by Mikhayl

Yes that's what he said. If you read only 1 word out of 3.

It was in his summary statement... Funny though that everyone thinks that a democrat will put food on their tables. The housing and bank situation was started by them, it started with a thing called "community re-investment". It is bad business to give loans to those who cannot afford them to begin with. Would you give me a personal loan knowing I could not pay it back?

[Digital_Trucker]

Originally Posted by Skybird

Serves McCain right. Isn't his camp telling openly that they are not about issues, but personalities?

As a matter of fact, the answer to that question is no. One of his campaign people said that the CAMPAIGN is not about issues, but is about personalities. As usual, the other side puts their spin on the out of context statement to make it advantageous to themselves.

[Frame57]

Originally Posted by SUBMAN1

I love this! Look at all these Europeans who have no clue what goes on in America, pretending they know what goes on in America! You guys are killing me! :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

-S

Well, it either shows you that the liberal agenda really is progressive globalism. Or that they are pretty darned bored

[Tchocky]

Originally Posted by Frame57

It was in his summary statement... Funny though that everyone thinks that a democrat will put food on their tables. The housing and bank situation was started by them, it started with a thing called "community re-investment". It is bad business to give loans to those who cannot afford them to begin with. Would you give me a personal loan knowing I could not pay it back?

Actually, repayment rates are highest among low-income people, they're often better bets than rich people.
The CRA didn't force credit rating agencies to put high ratings on less-than solid debt. It made absolutely no mention of debt trading.
The CRA didn't force hedge funds or invenstment banks to run insane leverage ratios.
THe CRA didn't force homeowners to see a housing bubble as a rock-solid rise in value, and take on high-interest loans in the belief that they could remortgage later.
What it did do was extend lending to lower-income households, which often have lower default rates than higher-income households, partly because the sums invested are lower, and easier to manage.
You can't say that this was started by a single political party in a single country.

[Frame57]

Not a single country. No. In Tancredo's district alone over 100,000 foreclosure alone to illegals. I disagree, the majority of foreclosure are people who would have never qualified with A. Good credit and B. 20% down.

Originally Posted by Frame57

Well, it either shows you that the liberal agenda really is progressive globalism. Or that they are pretty darned bored

So you don't like globalism? I don't see white people lining up to pick vegetables.

[Konovalov]

Originally Posted by Skybird

You mean the long anti-Palin Booooh at the hockey opener?

Yeah, I viewed that on the tv news last night. Not much love out there on the ice for Governor Palin.

Just read this article in the Times today: McCain tussles with Palin over whipping up a mob mentality

John Weaver, a former senior McCain adviser who left the campaign when it almost imploded in the summer of last year, questioned the purpose of the attacks.

“People need to understand, for moral reasons and the protection of our civil society, that the differences with Senator Obama are ideological, based on clear differences on policy and a lack of experience compared with Senator McCain,” he said.

“And from a purely practical political vantage point, please find me a swing voter, an undecided independent, or a torn female voter that finds an angry mob mentality attractive.”

Can't disagree with that.