Being engaged by escorts...

Janus · 09-27-08, 03:50 AM

Hi,
In my latest NYGM 3.0 patrol in December '43 I am engaged by a convoy escort for almost 4 hours game time now.
But for the last 2 hours game time or so the escort vessel has not depth charged me although it is still pinging me from time to time. I think it's not unlikely that the escort is out of depth charges.

How can I get rid of this bastard? I've been on silent running throughout the engagement and the convoy must even be out of my sonar range soon. I want to surface again and make contact with the convoy again but this escort is still lingering around

Is this a feature of NYGM (escorts trying to keep me underwater until I run out of oxygen and have to surface?) or is it just a SHIII "feature" when the escort does not notice that it apperantly is out of depth charges?

What would you do in my situation to get rid of the escort?

bigboywooly · 09-27-08, 04:03 AM

SH3 feature
They carry on as if they still have some
Well the obvious solution is to try lose him
Deep and silent with slow turns

But if you havent managed that in the last 2 hours
The other alternative is to go to PD and send him a torp
Not realistic but then neither is an escort still making runs with no DCs
When he would have had another escort take over and returned to convoy or just left himself

Your call

nirwana · 09-27-08, 04:45 AM

He wont leave u alone until the convoy is at least 50 km away or another sub is spotted somewhere else. If ure lucky the convoy will be attacked by AI-subs in which case he runs away with top speed and u will get frequently the position of the convoy from BdU. If u somehow manage to take him out another escort will zigzagging for a couple of hrs 10-20km away from the tail of the convoy forcing u to outflank the convoy out of any sensor range at great distance. Sometimes it takes me upto 3 sh3 days to get back in a descend attack position.

Kipparikalle · 09-27-08, 07:03 AM

Just get to the nearest (full speed, you can cheat using the freecam to see the DD coming, and evade in time), deepest spot in the sea. And go as deepest, and silent as possible. Over 150m spot would be preferred.

Works everytime

Jimbuna · 09-27-08, 07:18 AM

Well if that works every time, I'm definitely doing something wrong :hmm:

<reminds oneself to set all escort crew values to 'noob'>

Kipparikalle · 09-27-08, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Well if that works every time, I'm definitely doing something wrong :hmm:

<reminds oneself to set all escort crew values to 'noob'>

I meant to say mostly, don't know how that slipped there.

Anyway, if that fails. Go pop a cap in its ass and call it a day

Janus · 09-27-08, 08:40 AM

I've already been at 140m depth with engines OFF
for almost an hour I would say. But the escort still came back to ping me.
I'm afraid I just have to sit it out until the escort will regroup with it's convoy - whenever this will be...

09-27-08, 11:10 AM

Keep speed slow at 2kts
Stopped you will still be an asdic target and stopped one at that
2 kts and regular turn
Keep move away from convoy course

Jimbuna · 09-27-08, 03:47 PM

Manually (from the speed guage and whilst in silent running mode) set your speed to 1 knot....that is as quiet as you can be whilst moving.

The other plus is that your battery lasts longer (longer than your oxygen level anyway)

Brag · 09-27-08, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Manually (from the speed guage and whilst in silent running mode) set your speed to 1 knot....that is as quiet as you can be whilst moving.

The other plus is that your battery lasts longer (longer than your oxygen level anyway)

Yup, speed one knot. rudder 5-10 degrees. You may change depth.

Jimbuna · 09-27-08, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brag

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Manually (from the speed guage and whilst in silent running mode) set your speed to 1 knot....that is as quiet as you can be whilst moving.

The other plus is that your battery lasts longer (longer than your oxygen level anyway)

Yup, speed one knot. rudder 5-10 degrees. You may change depth.

You may run, but you can't hide

Janus · 09-27-08, 06:49 PM

I finally made it by moving away from the (estimated) convoy's course with 2 knots silent running at depth 160 meters.

Now I need to get into an attack position again.
It is damned hard to engage a late '43 convoy...

Task Force · 09-27-08, 06:58 PM

What type of boat do you have?

Janus · 09-28-08, 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Task Force

What type of boat do you have?

Type VII C/41

nirwana · 09-28-08, 02:27 AM

btw. NYGM convoy escorts have a bad habit to run towards the last contact of u for no friggin reason as long as its daytime to force u going submerged slowing u down hrs after the inital approach/attack. Its an indication that the convoy will adjust its course upto +-45 degree. Without any hydro/visual contact of the convoy and without using the free camera the chance is slim to keep in touch with the convoy.

09-27-08, 03:50 AM	#1
Janus XO Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 434 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Being engaged by escorts... Hi, In my latest NYGM 3.0 patrol in December '43 I am engaged by a convoy escort for almost 4 hours game time now. But for the last 2 hours game time or so the escort vessel has not depth charged me although it is still pinging me from time to time. I think it's not unlikely that the escort is out of depth charges. How can I get rid of this bastard? I've been on silent running throughout the engagement and the convoy must even be out of my sonar range soon. I want to surface again and make contact with the convoy again but this escort is still lingering around Is this a feature of NYGM (escorts trying to keep me underwater until I run out of oxygen and have to surface?) or is it just a SHIII "feature" when the escort does not notice that it apperantly is out of depth charges? What would you do in my situation to get rid of the escort?

09-27-08, 04:03 AM	#2
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	SH3 feature They carry on as if they still have some Well the obvious solution is to try lose him Deep and silent with slow turns But if you havent managed that in the last 2 hours The other alternative is to go to PD and send him a torp Not realistic but then neither is an escort still making runs with no DCs When he would have had another escort take over and returned to convoy or just left himself Your call __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

09-27-08, 07:18 AM	#5
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,615 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Well if that works every time, I'm definitely doing something wrong :hmm: <reminds oneself to set all escort crew values to 'noob'> __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

09-27-08, 03:47 PM	#9
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,615 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Manually (from the speed guage and whilst in silent running mode) set your speed to 1 knot....that is as quiet as you can be whilst moving. The other plus is that your battery lasts longer (longer than your oxygen level anyway) __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

09-27-08, 06:58 PM	#13
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09-27-08, 04:45 AM	#3
nirwana Sonar Guy Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 380 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	He wont leave u alone until the convoy is at least 50 km away or another sub is spotted somewhere else. If ure lucky the convoy will be attacked by AI-subs in which case he runs away with top speed and u will get frequently the position of the convoy from BdU. If u somehow manage to take him out another escort will zigzagging for a couple of hrs 10-20km away from the tail of the convoy forcing u to outflank the convoy out of any sensor range at great distance. Sometimes it takes me upto 3 sh3 days to get back in a descend attack position.

09-27-08, 07:03 AM	#4
Kipparikalle Samurai Navy Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Finland Posts: 580 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Just get to the nearest (full speed, you can cheat using the freecam to see the DD coming, and evade in time), deepest spot in the sea. And go as deepest, and silent as possible. Over 150m spot would be preferred. Works everytime

09-27-08, 08:40 AM	#7
Janus XO Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 434 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	I've already been at 140m depth with engines OFF for almost an hour I would say. But the escort still came back to ping me. I'm afraid I just have to sit it out until the escort will regroup with it's convoy - whenever this will be...

09-27-08, 11:10 AM	#8
Reise Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Keep speed slow at 2kts Stopped you will still be an asdic target and stopped one at that 2 kts and regular turn Keep move away from convoy course

09-27-08, 06:49 PM	#12
Janus XO Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 434 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	I finally made it by moving away from the (estimated) convoy's course with 2 knots silent running at depth 160 meters. Now I need to get into an attack position again. It is damned hard to engage a late '43 convoy...

09-28-08, 02:27 AM	#15
nirwana Sonar Guy Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 380 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	btw. NYGM convoy escorts have a bad habit to run towards the last contact of u for no friggin reason as long as its daytime to force u going submerged slowing u down hrs after the inital approach/attack. Its an indication that the convoy will adjust its course upto +-45 degree. Without any hydro/visual contact of the convoy and without using the free camera the chance is slim to keep in touch with the convoy.