Thiking of a new mod- Real Ship Mod - Page 2

tater · 03-01-08, 11:06 AM

Yeah, same one, I think.

swdw · 08-31-08, 05:05 PM

Finally started work on the surface ships. Things are in the experimentation stage as I learn how the different parameters affect performance.

Using the Mogami as the initial test bed.

Fish40 · 08-31-08, 05:23 PM

Great idea!

I'm wondering though, unless I missed it while I was speedreading through the thread, how dose this differ from, or similar to NSM?:hmm:

08-31-08, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by swdw

We've been discussing various fixes that the merchants and warships need in SH4.

I was thinking about doing the fixes and having them be a part of RFB, but then I started to have another idea.

It seems it would be better to have a seperate mod that anyone can use.

What this mod would entail is correcting the physics of the surface ships and the cfg files. People could take it for their mod and whatever recognition manual they want to update to use with it.

I've had some good results playing with the Mogami in reducing her acceleration and increasing her turning radius.

Anyway- throwing this out to the community. If you like this,it will take help from some of the more knowledgable people in digging up info and testing (Like tater, otherwise known as "Mr IJN"

)

thank you , your work will be part of every modders game in one form or the other. i have been a strong supporter of the stand alone mod style because it does just as you said, it allows everyone to use it in there own way.

Seminole · 08-31-08, 06:51 PM

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It seems it would be better to have a seperate mod that anyone can use.

Yep, yep, yep....if I am allowed a voice in this then I heartily concur. Seldom do I like each and ever thing included in any super mod and like to pick and choose what I want to employ and what I do not.

I never was a big fan either of unisex or one size fits all .

ReallyDedPoet · 08-31-08, 09:04 PM

Sounds good

RDP

AVGWarhawk · 08-31-08, 09:19 PM

Nah, I like the jet ski reaction of tons of steel. Especially the tankers! This is long overdue Swdw.

swdw · 09-03-08, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish40

Great idea!

I'm wondering though, unless I missed it while I was speedreading through the thread, how dose this differ from, or similar to NSM?:hmm:

I believe NSM didn't deal with the acceleration and turning capabilities of the ships. That's all I'll be addressing in this mod so it's compatible with stock.

It'll also be in a later version of RFB along with the new ship damage model. Next relesae will just have the new damage model.

Orion2012 · 09-03-08, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by swdw

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Originally Posted by Fish40

Great idea!

I'm wondering though, unless I missed it while I was speedreading through the thread, how dose this differ from, or similar to NSM?:hmm:

I believe NSM didn't deal with the acceleration and turning capabilities of the ships. That's all I'll be addressing in this mod so it's compatible with stock.

It'll also be in RFB along with the new ship damage model.

Sounds great, at the rate things are progressing, Sh4 could become the falcon 4.0 of sub sims....

But we still need that 300 page manual.

tater · 09-19-08, 01:50 PM

Ping!

Hopefully I'll have my PC set up in the "man cave" next week.

tater · 09-19-08, 01:53 PM

On topic, I have a number of ideas for merchant shipping, several I have experimented with that required some of the S3D improvements to finalize. I'm slightly rusty, frankly. Might dive in in earnest in a few weeks.

ivank · 09-19-08, 02:15 PM

that would be amazing!

peabody · 09-19-08, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by swdw

We've been discussing various fixes that the merchants and warships need in SH4.

I have a strange one for you. Working on the Japanese Campaign, I fired four fish at a Fleet Carrier, nothing. DDs approaching had to move quickly. Popped up again, and got lucky the Carrier had turned to run and was crossing my bow, shot three more, nothing. :hmm: Went to 'free camera' over to the Carrier and underwater and looked up. I could actually see about half of the ships hull with no water on it. The Carrier didn't have two inches of water under it. I wish I had the screenshot but I had problems and had to reinstall SH4 and I didn't bother to save the pics. It's not the first time I've missed (I wrote the mission, I know where they are:rotfl

some may be legitimate misses because of the 'acceleration' issue, but these I was close enough I could see my torps wake and they passed right under it. (And I wasn't too close for arming either).

Peabody

Rockin Robbins · 09-19-08, 02:46 PM

Absolutely amazing! Swdw vanishes for a period of time on personal business and comes back to tackle one of the biggest issues in SH4! This will make a tremendous difference for every player of the game. I especially like that the surface ship guru, ivank, jumped right on this one, and that tater is excited about a project again.

Seminole, you not only are allowed a voice, but your good judgment and independent attitude (like WEBSTER!) speak for the majority of players of the game. Your voice is one that is listened to very carefully by the RFB team.

You've got to be pretty excited about the new enthusiasm and the explosion of new mod ideas for SH4.

Hitman · 09-19-08, 03:12 PM

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I was thinking about doing the fixes and having them be a part of RFB, but then I started to have another idea.

It seems it would be better to have a seperate mod that anyone can use.

Please DO SO!

RFB is great, but "advanced" users prefer to customize their own install to personal taste, and this mod would be a blessing.

If you can include in the readme the tweaks done to files, that would allow easy coordination with other mods used

08-31-08, 05:05 PM	#17
swdw Grey Wolf Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 921 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	Finally started work on the surface ships. Things are in the experimentation stage as I learn how the different parameters affect performance. Using the Mogami as the initial test bed. __________________ "There are only two types of ships- submarines...... and targets" Unknown "you wouldn't catch me on a ship that deliberately sinks itself"- comment to me from a surface sailor. System: AMD 6300 3.5 GHz \| 32GB DDR3 \| SATA 300 320GB HD, SATA III 1TB HD, SATA III 1.TB HD \| ASUS Sonar DS sound card NVIDIA 1660 Super OC \| Windows 10

08-31-08, 09:04 PM	#21
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,890 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Sounds good RDP __________________ Back in the Day

08-31-08, 09:19 PM	#22
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,284 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Nah, I like the jet ski reaction of tons of steel. Especially the tankers! This is long overdue Swdw. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

09-19-08, 02:15 PM	#27
ivank The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Huntington, Long Island, New York Posts: 1,426 Downloads: 284 Uploads: 0	that would be amazing! __________________ Head of The Surface Warfare Super-Mod Team Leutnant z. S. David U. Ziegler U-105 IXB On Patrol 1

09-19-08, 02:46 PM	#29
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Absolutely amazing! Swdw vanishes for a period of time on personal business and comes back to tackle one of the biggest issues in SH4! This will make a tremendous difference for every player of the game. I especially like that the surface ship guru, ivank, jumped right on this one, and that tater is excited about a project again. Seminole, you not only are allowed a voice, but your good judgment and independent attitude (like WEBSTER!) speak for the majority of players of the game. Your voice is one that is listened to very carefully by the RFB team. You've got to be pretty excited about the new enthusiasm and the explosion of new mod ideas for SH4. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

03-01-08, 11:06 AM	#16
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Yeah, same one, I think.

08-31-08, 05:23 PM	#18
Fish40 The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yonkers, NY U.S.A. Posts: 1,507 Downloads: 154 Uploads: 0	Great idea! I'm wondering though, unless I missed it while I was speedreading through the thread, how dose this differ from, or similar to NSM?:hmm:

09-19-08, 01:50 PM	#25
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	Ping! Hopefully I'll have my PC set up in the "man cave" next week.

09-19-08, 01:53 PM	#26
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	On topic, I have a number of ideas for merchant shipping, several I have experimented with that required some of the S3D improvements to finalize. I'm slightly rusty, frankly. Might dive in in earnest in a few weeks.