Bletchley park in GWX....

UnderseaLcpl · 05-31-08, 01:05 PM

I had long suspected convoys of being routed around me in GWX 2.1 and a recent post by Brag reinforced that suspicion.
Are Convoy course changes and the presence of escorts or aircraft in GWX related to radio transmissions or are they just coincidence?

Brag · 05-31-08, 02:07 PM

Hey Lance,
Each convoy and ship follows a predetermined route. BBW had been working for over a year to make it more difficult to find and intercept sea traffic.

(I should have never told him about the discovery of Tanker Alley) :rotfl: :rotfl:

I'm about to return to a patrol where I think I discovered a hot spot for lone ships. Will report later.

If you look in the stickies for the map in Operation Spinnenetz, it will show some of the convoy routes.

HW3 · 05-31-08, 03:11 PM

I have heard that sending a radio message will draw aircraft to you, if you are in range of a enemy airbase.

Jimbuna · 05-31-08, 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnderseaLcpl

I had long suspected convoys of being routed around me in GWX 2.1 and a recent post by Brag reinforced that suspicion.
Are Convoy course changes and the presence of escorts or aircraft in GWX related to radio transmissions or are they just coincidence?

% factors in the way of spawning and routing have now been added to the routes to stop cheating buggas/woosies like Brag exploiting the game :rotfl:

UnderseaLcpl · 06-02-08, 04:32 PM

Perhaps I should be more specific.
Starting in about May of 1940 I noticed AM97 was a great place (logically) to catch convoys.
Once I got fairly close to one I would get a contact report even though my boat could not see them.
I assumed these are supplied by B-Dienst decrypts.
However, seemingly immediately after I received the reports the convoy changes course. Ultimately I get stuck In a desperate chase with frequent hydrophone checks to get in front of it.

From the replies so far I gather there is no rerouting of convoys and it is just my bad luck combined with frequent convoy course alterations.

If this is incorrect and some other mechanism is at work here it is doing a great job of simulating the work of Bletchley Park's cryptanalysts and staff. Bravo GWX!

BTW HW3 I am almost positive that radio messages do call down the thunder. The past 4-5 convoys I have attacked used up all my torpedoes and as a final service I supplied a contact report, only to be beset by 4-6 Escort vessels after I sank the convoy escorts. In fact I would suspect that DD's that are damaged but not sunk can return to nearby ports and then return to pursue you as I always seem to be attacked by escorts of the same type as ships I damaged but did not destroy several hours later.

Any additional insight is appreciated!

Brag · 06-02-08, 05:02 PM

% factors in the way of spawning and routing have now been added to the routes to stop cheating buggas/woosies like Brag exploiting the game :rotfl:[/quote]

This buggas not so woosie is researching a certain area in the Atlantic where the fishing been almost as good as Tanker Alley. Hehe he

Will see how it goes. Dept GWX of the British Admiralty may have another fit

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Kaleu. Jochen Mohr · 06-10-08, 10:52 AM

i once sailed a merchant lane for 3 times, sunk over 30 ships on it for over 100.000 tons, right off the ami coast

Jimbuna · 06-11-08, 04:31 AM

Cape Hatteras can be quite productive at times

BasilY · 06-12-08, 10:19 AM

Really? My experience shows different. I got convoys OK. Not as often as in stock. But I don't feel like convoys are being routed arround me. In fact, just yesterday I hit a Caracas-New York Convoy for 50K GRT. Hit numerous small convoys.

19 Sep 1942 0137 Patrol 22
U-50, 7th/13th Flotilla
Left at: September 19, 1942, 01:37
From: U-461 24 Sep 1942 0503 CB 41 Ship sunk! Granville-type Freighter, 4702 tons 02 Oct 1942 0303 DC 12 Ship sunk! Granville-type Freighter, 4704 tons 0622 DC 12 Ship sunk! M/V Buena Vista Hills (Modern Tanker), 9471 tons 0633 DC 12 Ship sunk! USS Carlson (Evarts class), 1192 tons 0637 DC 12 Ship sunk! USS Connolly (Evarts class), 1192 tons 0653 DC 12 Ship sunk! USS Mason (Evarts class), 1192 tons 0715 DC 12 Ship sunk! USS Dobler (Evarts class), 1192 tons 0814 DC 12 Ship sunk! Ore Carrier, 8083 tons 0856 DC 12 Ship sunk! M/V Fort Cornwallis (Modern Tanker), 9904 tons 0934 DC 12 Ship sunk! Coastal Freighter, 1869 tons 1029 DC 12 Ship sunk! Medium Tanker, 8701 tons 1034 DC 12 Ship sunk! Medium Tanker, 8702 tons 03 Oct 1942 0753 Patrol results
Crew losses: 1 dead
Ships sunk: 12
Aircraft destroyed: 0
Patrol tonage: 60904 tons

Jimbuna · 06-13-08, 05:11 AM

Really ?

Well that's fine.....mr experience.

If I were you I'd go just where my experience told me to go.

SH3 is a big world.....there are many a hot spot out there.

05-31-08, 01:05 PM	#1
UnderseaLcpl Silent Hunter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Storming the beaches! Posts: 4,254 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Bletchley park in GWX.... I had long suspected convoys of being routed around me in GWX 2.1 and a recent post by Brag reinforced that suspicion. Are Convoy course changes and the presence of escorts or aircraft in GWX related to radio transmissions or are they just coincidence? __________________ I stole this sig from Task Force

05-31-08, 02:07 PM	#2
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Hey Lance, Each convoy and ship follows a predetermined route. BBW had been working for over a year to make it more difficult to find and intercept sea traffic. (I should have never told him about the discovery of Tanker Alley) :rotfl: :rotfl: I'm about to return to a patrol where I think I discovered a hot spot for lone ships. Will report later. If you look in the stickies for the map in Operation Spinnenetz, it will show some of the convoy routes. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

05-31-08, 03:11 PM	#3
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,576 Downloads: 458 Uploads: 0	I have heard that sending a radio message will draw aircraft to you, if you are in range of a enemy airbase. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

06-02-08, 04:32 PM	#5
UnderseaLcpl Silent Hunter Join Date: May 2008 Location: Storming the beaches! Posts: 4,254 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Perhaps I should be more specific. Starting in about May of 1940 I noticed AM97 was a great place (logically) to catch convoys. Once I got fairly close to one I would get a contact report even though my boat could not see them. I assumed these are supplied by B-Dienst decrypts. However, seemingly immediately after I received the reports the convoy changes course. Ultimately I get stuck In a desperate chase with frequent hydrophone checks to get in front of it. From the replies so far I gather there is no rerouting of convoys and it is just my bad luck combined with frequent convoy course alterations. If this is incorrect and some other mechanism is at work here it is doing a great job of simulating the work of Bletchley Park's cryptanalysts and staff. Bravo GWX! BTW HW3 I am almost positive that radio messages do call down the thunder. The past 4-5 convoys I have attacked used up all my torpedoes and as a final service I supplied a contact report, only to be beset by 4-6 Escort vessels after I sank the convoy escorts. In fact I would suspect that DD's that are damaged but not sunk can return to nearby ports and then return to pursue you as I always seem to be attacked by escorts of the same type as ships I damaged but did not destroy several hours later. Any additional insight is appreciated! __________________ I stole this sig from Task Force

06-02-08, 05:02 PM	#6
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	% factors in the way of spawning and routing have now been added to the routes to stop cheating buggas/woosies like Brag exploiting the game :rotfl:[/quote] This buggas not so woosie is researching a certain area in the Atlantic where the fishing been almost as good as Tanker Alley. Hehe he Will see how it goes. Dept GWX of the British Admiralty may have another fit . __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

06-10-08, 10:52 AM	#7
Kaleu. Jochen Mohr Ocean Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: in my sub Posts: 2,741 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	i once sailed a merchant lane for 3 times, sunk over 30 ships on it for over 100.000 tons, right off the ami coast __________________ Gruß

06-11-08, 04:31 AM	#8
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,615 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Cape Hatteras can be quite productive at times __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

06-12-08, 10:19 AM	#9
BasilY Weps Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 359 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Really? My experience shows different. I got convoys OK. Not as often as in stock. But I don't feel like convoys are being routed arround me. In fact, just yesterday I hit a Caracas-New York Convoy for 50K GRT. Hit numerous small convoys. 19 Sep 1942 0137 Patrol 22 U-50, 7th/13th Flotilla Left at: September 19, 1942, 01:37 From: U-461 24 Sep 1942 0503 CB 41 Ship sunk! Granville-type Freighter, 4702 tons 02 Oct 1942 0303 DC 12 Ship sunk! Granville-type Freighter, 4704 tons 0622 DC 12 Ship sunk! M/V Buena Vista Hills (Modern Tanker), 9471 tons 0633 DC 12 Ship sunk! USS Carlson (Evarts class), 1192 tons 0637 DC 12 Ship sunk! USS Connolly (Evarts class), 1192 tons 0653 DC 12 Ship sunk! USS Mason (Evarts class), 1192 tons 0715 DC 12 Ship sunk! USS Dobler (Evarts class), 1192 tons 0814 DC 12 Ship sunk! Ore Carrier, 8083 tons 0856 DC 12 Ship sunk! M/V Fort Cornwallis (Modern Tanker), 9904 tons 0934 DC 12 Ship sunk! Coastal Freighter, 1869 tons 1029 DC 12 Ship sunk! Medium Tanker, 8701 tons 1034 DC 12 Ship sunk! Medium Tanker, 8702 tons 03 Oct 1942 0753 Patrol results Crew losses: 1 dead Ships sunk: 12 Aircraft destroyed: 0 Patrol tonage: 60904 tons

06-13-08, 05:11 AM	#10
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,615 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Really ? Well that's fine.....mr experience. If I were you I'd go just where my experience told me to go. SH3 is a big world.....there are many a hot spot out there. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!