Too much Topgun?

[mcf1]

Check this out
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle3427696.ece

[Tango589]

Ray Middleton, his British co-pilot, who had been unaware that the fly-by was performed without official permission, was suspended from training duties for six months.

I'm not surprised that the pilot got the bullet but this seems a bit much for the poor co-pilot.

[Steel_Tomb]

I think I saw something about this a while ago about a low level fly past. Personally I think they're over reacting! If I recall there were some high level executives on board the flight, who originally didn't mind. Silly really, probably over some health and safety crap. I could understand a few weeks off and a telling off, but to out right dismiss him seems somewhat over the top!

[Dowly]

Originally Posted by Steel_Tomb

I think I saw something about this a while ago about a low level fly past. Personally I think they're over reacting! If I recall there were some high level executives on board the flight, who originally didn't mind. Silly really, probably over some health and safety crap. I could understand a few weeks off and a telling off, but to out right dismiss him seems somewhat over the top!

It's always a risk when doing un-needed maneuvers i.e. victory passes. What if, during one's roll over the airfield, his controls fail. He'd plunge to the airfield, killing himself and in bad case, others too.

[Steel_Tomb]

Originally Posted by Dowly

It's always a risk when doing un-needed maneuvers i.e. victory passes. What if, during one's roll over the airfield, his controls fail. He'd plunge to the airfield, killing himself and in bad case, others too.

Not his fault, the systems on board the aircraft failed. A highly unlikely scenario since there are multiple redundancy systems installed on modern commercial jets. We are talking about one of their most experianced pilots here too, I think hes well up to flying something that low. :p

[mcf1]

Found one awesome but stupid. Check the third plane.


edit: check this too

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Originally Posted by Steel_Tomb

Not his fault, the systems on board the aircraft failed. A highly unlikely scenario since there are multiple redundancy systems installed on modern commercial jets. We are talking about one of their most experianced pilots here too, I think hes well up to flying something that low. :p

Yes, there are redundancy instruments, but at 28 feet, it'd take a split second for the aircraft to hit the ground, rather than having a several thousand foot cushion as the instruments were likely designed for.

[TteFAboB]

Another reason for his dismissal is that it sends a message from the company to the passengers: don't worry, our pilots are responsible, obedient and always choose safety first. The one that didn't has already been sacked.

[Steel_Tomb]

Something that large the ground lift would surely keep it up long enough, hes low yes but his AoA isn't going to be that big nothing out of the norm. To be honest a maneouver like that isn't much different from landing I mean its a bit silly hes a qualified pilot hes quite capable of handling himself. Fair enough if its for the pasengers, but some people are so screamy, slight turbulance and some people think the thing is going to fall out of the sky... jeeez!

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by TteFAboB

Another reason for his dismissal is that it sends a message from the company to the passengers: don't worry, our pilots are responsible, obedient and always choose safety first. The one that didn't has already been sacked.

Except of course as the article described, the passengers were company executives who probably enjoyed the ride. He wasn't in trouble until after the video was all over the internet. They waited until then before deciding he should be fired.

And, in answer to Dowly's question about rolls, one of the greatest of them all:
http://www.aviationexplorer.com/707_roll_video.htm

Notice the punishment meted out to Tex Johnston by Boeing president Bill Allen.

And some stunt by one of the greatest ever, Bob Hoover. His specialty was the Aero/Shrike Commander, but I was privileged to see him make a P-51 do the wheel-to-wheel 'dance' live.
http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/006784.html

[sonar732]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Except of course as the article described, the passengers were company executives who probably enjoyed the ride. He wasn't in trouble until after the video was all over the internet. They waited until then before deciding he should be fired.

And, in answer to Dowly's question about rolls, one of the greatest of them all:
http://www.aviationexplorer.com/707_roll_video.htm

Notice the punishment meted out to Tex Johnston by Boeing president Bill Allen.

And some stunt by one of the greatest ever, Bob Hoover. His specialty was the Aero/Shrike Commander, but I was privileged to see him make a P-51 do the wheel-to-wheel 'dance' live.
http://jeremy.zawodny.com/blog/archives/006784.html

Both of those were sweet!

[TteFAboB]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Except of course as the article described, the passengers were company executives who probably enjoyed the ride. He wasn't in trouble until after the video was all over the internet. They waited until then before deciding he should be fired.

Indeed, we couldn't even call them real passengers. When those, the real passengers, especially the ones afraid of flying, see the video all over the internet they blacklist this company fearing boarding planes with rogue pilots. They don't see skill and capability, they see a near-death experience and crazyness. It may be silly, but no doubt the company's fear is less irrational than the passengers's.

[FIREWALL]

Go back and read the WHOLE story lady's. He's no more going to lose his job than any of you are going to fly anything more than your computers.:p

What a bunch a NERDS :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: