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Old 03-11-08, 06:14 PM   #16
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I do not want to know a mod's inside leg measurment!I want to know he is passionate about gaming and above all fair.If he has a naval background or has special knowledge I want to know as well.Unfortunately you have all taken this the wrong way and I must offer you this quote:
"A gentleman is a man who can disagree without being disagreeable."
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Old 03-11-08, 06:16 PM   #17
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but why?
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Old 03-11-08, 06:17 PM   #18
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:p Ok Steed write this down. 666 Elm's Street, Helltown, Hell, 96669zip, phone number is 555-666-9666 :rotfl:Now I'm in your Black book.
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Old 03-11-08, 06:17 PM   #19
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but why?
See me after class and I will explain it in words of one syllable or pictures.
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Old 03-11-08, 06:19 PM   #20
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but why?
See me after class and I will explain it in words of one syllable or pictures.
"A gentleman is a man who can disagree without being disagreeable."

Take a leaf from your own book and do not patronise people.


I still do not know why. Is it just curiosity?
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Old 03-11-08, 06:24 PM   #21
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:p Ok Steed write this down. 666 Elm's Street, Helltown, Hell, 96669zip, phone number is 555-666-9666 :rotfl:Now I'm in your Black book.
For that your highlighted in Red and underlined.

Better add a Red cross as well.
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Old 03-11-08, 06:26 PM   #22
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The one person this tread is about happens not to be here to voice his opinion.

Your all going around in circles but feel free to continual.
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Old 03-11-08, 08:15 PM   #23
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Everyone knows the vast majority of my life anyway
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Old 03-11-08, 08:35 PM   #24
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Become a Moderator and everyting will become clear ... grasshopper.:rotfl:
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Well i got asked on a kiwi site to be a moderator i kinda freaked out as i was not expecting it at all, they wanted a moderator that wasn't into wild debates and arguments - besides whats the point l always come out the loser in arguments anyways

Anyways abit worried about moderatoring a site with 40,000+ members but only a few hundred using the forums i thought the best place to get some good advice and tips was from the subsim moderators so thats what i did. I PM one and this is the wise words i got

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First, let me officially welcome you to the global brotherhood of moderators. The paddling will come later. :p I had a real advantage when I started on <snip> because I had moderated for Neal on several different forums over the past few years. I knew what he liked and how he wanted his boards moderated. That should be the first thing. Either observe the webmaster in action, or ask him what how he wants things approached. Moderation is like being between two parties: The Webmaster and the members. You have to keep both satisfied while maintaining order. It is a tricky tightrope. You won't always be able to keep the members happy, but you must always keep the Webmaster on your side, as all of your authority will, ultimately, stem from him. As it relates to SubSim, I am powerless without Neal, just as you will be without your webmaster.

With the members, you have to let them get to know your style. One of the biggest problems that I have is that I had when I took over <snip> was that I approached it as though they already knew me as a moderator. This was a mistake. Everything changes when you get that little asterix next to your name. Your friends will drift away, and you will be regarded as the cop; an outsider and one not to be trusted. I did the worst possible thing: To go in there like gangbusters on my first big flare-up, and I got egg all over my face. I toned down the rhetoric and got much better results. Once they get used to you, you'll only have to post the occassional 'Hey knock it off', and the members will respond. Really, I only lock threads as a last resort.

Moderators on SubSim do not have the direct power of suspension. I can enforce a 24-hour ban, but that is it. All of our brig time and bans must be appealed through Neal. I prefer this system, but if you have the power to ban, be sure to use it only as a last, last resort, and have a clear and systematic system of warnings in place to cover yourself. No issue is more contentious.

Finally, be aware that moderation is a lonely job. As I said before, you will be stuck in the no-man's-land between the webmaster and the members. You will lose a lot of friends, and you will not be able to participate in the discussions like you used to. You have to really like the website to do the job. Otherwise, you will start to wonder what you are doing there in the first place.
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Old 03-11-08, 09:07 PM   #25
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I think it would work the other way around. People would look at their bio and explain the mod's actions by it, claiming unfairness and imbalance towards members with different bios.
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Old 03-11-08, 09:20 PM   #26
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Become a Moderator and everyting will become clear ... grasshopper.:rotfl:
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Well i got asked on a kiwi site to be a moderator i kinda freaked out as i was not expecting it at all, they wanted a moderator that wasn't into wild debates and arguments - besides whats the point l always come out the loser in arguments anyways

Anyways abit worried about moderatoring a site with 40,000+ members but only a few hundred using the forums i thought the best place to get some good advice and tips was from the subsim moderators so thats what i did. I PM one and this is the wise words i got

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First, let me officially welcome you to the global brotherhood of moderators. The paddling will come later. :p I had a real advantage when I started on <snip> because I had moderated for Neal on several different forums over the past few years. I knew what he liked and how he wanted his boards moderated. That should be the first thing. Either observe the webmaster in action, or ask him what how he wants things approached. Moderation is like being between two parties: The Webmaster and the members. You have to keep both satisfied while maintaining order. It is a tricky tightrope. You won't always be able to keep the members happy, but you must always keep the Webmaster on your side, as all of your authority will, ultimately, stem from him. As it relates to SubSim, I am powerless without Neal, just as you will be without your webmaster.

With the members, you have to let them get to know your style. One of the biggest problems that I have is that I had when I took over <snip> was that I approached it as though they already knew me as a moderator. This was a mistake. Everything changes when you get that little asterix next to your name. Your friends will drift away, and you will be regarded as the cop; an outsider and one not to be trusted. I did the worst possible thing: To go in there like gangbusters on my first big flare-up, and I got egg all over my face. I toned down the rhetoric and got much better results. Once they get used to you, you'll only have to post the occassional 'Hey knock it off', and the members will respond. Really, I only lock threads as a last resort.

Moderators on SubSim do not have the direct power of suspension. I can enforce a 24-hour ban, but that is it. All of our brig time and bans must be appealed through Neal. I prefer this system, but if you have the power to ban, be sure to use it only as a last, last resort, and have a clear and systematic system of warnings in place to cover yourself. No issue is more contentious.

Finally, be aware that moderation is a lonely job. As I said before, you will be stuck in the no-man's-land between the webmaster and the members. You will lose a lot of friends, and you will not be able to participate in the discussions like you used to. You have to really like the website to do the job. Otherwise, you will start to wonder what you are doing there in the first place.
Yep, every board needs moderation, and no one likes to be told to ease up. The moderators here and me try to use a light touch, acting only when necessary, as best we can judge. We're not perfect and we cannot make everyone happy all the time, but with the cooperation of the members here, we've earned a solid reputation as a good, civil, and fun community.

As for moderators listing their "biographical information", I think everyone should use their real names and list their true background. What have they got to hide? I'm always amused at some people who worry their real name will get publicized So, what?
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Old 03-11-08, 09:44 PM   #27
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Someone mentioned paddles *shifty eyes*

Ah you see! I'm everywhere! :rotfl:
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Old 03-11-08, 10:58 PM   #28
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I disagree.
This is not necessary, the forum is not a democracy or a public service.
And saying that to a newbie gives them the impression that it's a new Forum Reich, not a fun place to be. Can kill a web site quicker than anything, save for the old users who've always been there.
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Old 03-12-08, 12:05 AM   #29
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Everyone knows the vast majority of my life anyway
There's so little of it so far, what's not to know?

You were born, you grew up, you fell in love. That seems to be about it.
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Old 03-12-08, 05:58 AM   #30
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Someone mentioned paddles *shifty eyes*

Ah you see! I'm everywhere! :rotfl:
Here....you can have mine.

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