Can you write an oath of allegiance?

STEED · 03-11-08, 07:09 PM

http://timesonline.typepad.com/comment/2008/03/so-lord-goldsmi.html

I pledge my allegiance to Queen and common man but not those pigs at Westminster who will be publicly flogged when the revolution comes, liberal PC criminal rights will be swept away in the name of the people.

I pledge to fight the EU and destroy it and rip its filthy Black heart out.

Every man women and child will be given the Union Flag to put up in there gardens and feel proud and smile.

Letum · 03-11-08, 07:18 PM

I pledge to adopt healthy and vigorous cynicysm to all things, including this pledge.

Stealth Hunter · 03-11-08, 11:05 PM

I pledge to create my own living space that has no gods or kings, only pure and untamed man.

Sailor Steve · 03-12-08, 12:03 AM

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Brown really doesn't get what it is to be British, does he? It isn't about American-style oaths of allegiance to the flag, or little Stars and Stripes lapel badges or flagposts in the front garden. It's about a quiet sense of pride, "patriotism" as opposed to "nationalism".
Posted by: Margaret on the Guillotine

And America really should never have been about oaths of allegiance to the flag either. Fight it, boys.

Friedmann · 03-12-08, 05:23 AM

Pledges of allegiance are garbage. I've never made one to Australia and I never will. I don't have to prove my patriotism and I would feel being asked to do so demeaning.

Platapus · 03-12-08, 08:26 AM

I just wish our PoA reverted back to its original form

August · 03-12-08, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

I just wish our PoA reverted back to its original form

I like ours just the way it is, thank you very much.

Platapus · 03-12-08, 08:55 AM

Thats why we should be given a choice

Tchocky · 03-12-08, 09:11 AM

I very much don't like pledges.

Enforced patriotism is one of the silliest things a government/nation can do. It says - we neither trust nor believe you.

jumpy · 03-12-08, 09:12 AM

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Does Daniel think this has anything to do with Britishness ?
It's just Brown closing a flank that is exposed to the West Lothian question.Labour has lost Scotland for now and we might wake up to the fact that England, which does not have it's own Government, is run by people who's seats are in another country and call themselves,when convienient, Scots.
No doubt Daniel imagines that yesterdays headline about the troops ,underfunded by Brown,wearing their uniforms in public was to be taken at face value.The ban in Peterborough was a year ago and was resurected and trumpeted by Brown so he could lead all in praise of the people he has consistantly ignored.
One would expect journalists to display some of their legendary cynicism, especially when the "face"of these initiatives claims to have a moral compass.

Posted by: robert everitt | 11 Mar 2008 13:41:49

How very true.

Personally I feel that any comments like 'one nation, indevisable, under god' etc etc is so much bs as regards the UK anyway; we are not one nation for a start, nor are we indevisable (last time I checked) and don't get me started on 'god' or in this case gods seeing as we have so many diverse multicultural peoples scrounging here.

Yet more Nulab desperation I'm afraid.

Brag · 03-12-08, 02:14 PM

I'll drink to the punch of allegiance, or the plunge of allegiance, the plonk of allegiance,

May as well add, The Steed of allegiance.

AVGWarhawk · 03-12-08, 02:23 PM

Steed,

I had to laugh at some of the response of their pledges. Very funny indeed.

Jimbuna · 03-12-08, 02:37 PM

I laughed as well, despite the fact I have sworn an oath of allegiance (to the Crown) and am a signatory to the Official Secrets Act.

Many do so because they are patriotic to their country, others do so simply because they want to.

Some people have no choice once they choose certain vocations in life.

As long as they are forewarned what is expected of them prior to the event, what's the problem.

There's an old WWII saying here in the UK which goes something like...."You shouldn't have joined up if you can't take a joke"

03-11-08, 07:09 PM	#1
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Can you write an oath of allegiance? http://timesonline.typepad.com/comment/2008/03/so-lord-goldsmi.html I pledge my allegiance to Queen and common man but not those pigs at Westminster who will be publicly flogged when the revolution comes, liberal PC criminal rights will be swept away in the name of the people. I pledge to fight the EU and destroy it and rip its filthy Black heart out. Every man women and child will be given the Union Flag to put up in there gardens and feel proud and smile. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

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Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I pledge to adopt healthy and vigorous cynicysm to all things, including this pledge. __________________

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,369 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I just wish our PoA reverted back to its original form __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,369 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Thats why we should be given a choice __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I very much don't like pledges. Enforced patriotism is one of the silliest things a government/nation can do. It says - we neither trust nor believe you. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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Stealth Hunter Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Y'ha-Nthlei Posts: 4,262 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	I pledge to create my own living space that has no gods or kings, only pure and untamed man.

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Friedmann Bosun Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Aussie in Oslo, Norway Posts: 65 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Pledges of allegiance are garbage. I've never made one to Australia and I never will. I don't have to prove my patriotism and I would feel being asked to do so demeaning.

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Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I'll drink to the punch of allegiance, or the plunge of allegiance, the plonk of allegiance, May as well add, The Steed of allegiance. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

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AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,257 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Steed, I had to laugh at some of the response of their pledges. Very funny indeed. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,539 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I laughed as well, despite the fact I have sworn an oath of allegiance (to the Crown) and am a signatory to the Official Secrets Act. Many do so because they are patriotic to their country, others do so simply because they want to. Some people have no choice once they choose certain vocations in life. As long as they are forewarned what is expected of them prior to the event, what's the problem. There's an old WWII saying here in the UK which goes something like...."You shouldn't have joined up if you can't take a joke" __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!