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Old 01-31-08, 02:23 PM   #16
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Without the cold war we would never have seen this great TV show.



One of the upsides of the cold war.
Oh, excellent book too

(I'm guessing, have read it four or five times, never seen the TV show)
Agreed.

Well worth watching Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy & Smiley's People, both were great cold war TV series.
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Old 01-31-08, 02:32 PM   #17
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Unbelievable. Wrong message to be sending when people are worried about their jobs.

A real president would say "We need to create new companies and jobs in energy efficiency sectors to combat global warming". Not 'lets' slow down the economy. And people are voting for her? What idiots!

Umm.

Watch and listen to the video on ABC web site of Clinton's speach and tell him he didnt say what you just said a real president would say!:p

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/poli...83/detail.html

Oh how I love republican slants

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Old 01-31-08, 02:49 PM   #18
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The Cold War was quite different than how it was portrayed in the mainstream media. Just like The War on Terror is now.

A good example is the Berlin Airlift. The so called Blockade was simply a ban on West German products. But US and allies made a big theater from it and turned it into a PR disaster for the Soviets.
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Old 01-31-08, 02:57 PM   #19
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Unbelievable. Wrong message to be sending when people are worried about their jobs.

A real president would say "We need to create new companies and jobs in energy efficiency sectors to combat global warming". Not 'lets' slow down the economy. And people are voting for her? What idiots!
Umm.

Watch and listen to the video on ABC web site of Clinton's speach and tell him he didnt say what you just said a real president would say!:p

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/poli...83/detail.html

Oh how I love republican slants

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Are you saying that your vid is edited? I'd call that Democratic slant! Seems you got your words mixed up now didn't you? :p

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Old 01-31-08, 03:03 PM   #20
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Communism! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Subman its 2008 not 1958.
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Old 01-31-08, 03:06 PM   #21
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Communism! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Subman its 2008 not 1958.
Uhh, communism is alive and well my dear friend.

If not, maybe you should tell these guys - http://www.cpusa.org/article/static/15/

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Open up your eyes a little. You seem to have you head buried in the sand.

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Communism! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Subman its 2008 not 1958.
So you don't believe there are people out there that are still vying for the fantasy land utopia of Marx and Engel's? If you can't see they exist, you must be asleep. There are many names for it...communism is only one...
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Communism is indeed alive.

The fear of a communist agenda eating away at American politics is a tad nostalgic, however, like mrbeast said it's more suited to the fifties than today.
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Communism is indeed alive.

The fear of a communist agenda eating away at American politics is a tad nostalgic, however.
Communism is alive, but it's soul is quite dead fortunately. I wish lefties could learn of it's failures, systematic flaws, and it's incompatibilities with human nature and be done with it, instead of continuing on with the fantasy.

I'm not so sure it's a "fear" more than it is just vigilance. As the American Democrat Party not only routinely gets endorsed by the CPUSA, alot of their goals seem aligned with the general vision of Communist philosophy in a lighter version. As that often requires the infringement of other people's economic liberty and confiscation of private property to a certain degree, you can say alot of folks are leery of it.
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Communism is indeed alive.

The fear of a communist agenda eating away at American politics is a tad nostalgic, however, like mrbeast said it's more suited to the fifties than today.
Don't worry though - they are after you too - http://www.internationalism.org/ :p

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Communism! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Subman its 2008 not 1958.
Uhh, communism is alive and well my dear friend.

If not, maybe you should tell these guys - http://www.cpusa.org/article/static/15/

:p

Open up your eyes a little. You seem to have you head buried in the sand.

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Subman I don't know what planet your living on ( planet rightwing fantasist maybe :hmm: ) but I think its you that should open your eyes and rub some of the sand out of them.

Moscow central and COMINTERN are long long gone. You posted a paranoid article about suposed communist intentions to conquer the US written in 1963! So you are taking your information from over 40 years ago. Do you not think its just a little out of date?

Certainly there are still communist parties around theres some over here in the UK too but how many members do you think they have? I'll tell you very few they are tiny fringe groups, Subman. Infact I'd put money on there being more ultra right wing party members in the US than far left.

I'd say that things everywhere were going the other way actually more towards capitalism than communism.
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Communism is indeed alive.

The fear of a communist agenda eating away at American politics is a tad nostalgic, however, like mrbeast said it's more suited to the fifties than today.
I believe sometimes these things tend to take on a life of their own which can survive those who created them.
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Communist agenda? LMAO I love when I studied the cold war how paranoid and afraid Americans were of communists. Its almost on the same par as the whole Welsh-English rivalry.
Penelope...............the USSR was parking nukes 80 miles off the US coast in Cuba.....ummmm the paranoia was real.


Not to mention the three Soviet subs headed to the east coast with nuke torps aboard. All were found and made to surface.
And where did we found US nukes pointed at Russia?
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Communism is indeed alive.

The fear of a communist agenda eating away at American politics is a tad nostalgic, however, like mrbeast said it's more suited to the fifties than today.
I believe sometimes these things tend to take on a life of their own which can survive those who created them.
You mean like religions?
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Communism is indeed alive.

The fear of a communist agenda eating away at American politics is a tad nostalgic, however, like mrbeast said it's more suited to the fifties than today.
I believe sometimes these things tend to take on a life of their own which can survive those who created them.
You mean like religions?
In spite of what the NY Times claims, God is not dead.
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