Rescuing a diving boat

BenG · 01-24-08, 05:12 PM

Is there anyway to resuce a boot that seems to be falling towards the ocean floor.

After and attack on a convoy I was trying to make my way out of they and while I was still fairly shallow I was hit by a big DC attack and sent to the dark depths on my way down I tried everythign I could to control the fall I.e. blow ballast and click on a new depth, but by the time control was regaigned the Hull intergerity had fallen so much that the Ub-bot was destryoed (at about 100m) having just been much deeper.

In real life a chief of the boat had a few more tools and his disposal e.g. pumping ballast water around to change the trim, control dive planes indidually etc.. is there anythign else I cna do other than tell the CE to make his depth x or to blow ballast?

Avatar · 01-24-08, 05:20 PM

Try using the engine order telegraph too. If you boat angle is bow heavy, reverse the engines. If it's stern heavy, use the forward commands.
Other than that, the only other actions are to blow ballast, press the surface key "s," and order a higher depth.

GoldenRivet · 01-24-08, 06:01 PM

before any attack on escorted targets be sure toassign a damage control team.

If a compartment takes damage the men within the compartment will attempt to repair any damage to that compartment... But they will not be remotely as effective as the damage control team.

You will have to tell the damage control team which compartment to repair though... Because their function is NOT automatic.

Of corse nobody will repair ANYTHING or fight ANY flooding if you are secured for silent running, so if you wish to make repairs you MUST secure from silent running.

Two things will save a sinking boat...

1. Speed; the more speed you have the more effective your dive planes.
2. Blowing ballast; blowing compressed air into the tanks forces the ballast water out giving the boat rise. But you will run out of compressed air eventually.

There comes a time when the rate of flooding will overpower the pumps... At this point you have three options.

1. If the boat surfaces, surrender through SH3 Commander.
2. If the sea bed is not deeper than crush depth, strike the bottom and hope that the destroyers loose interest and the damage can be repaired.
3. Bend over as far as you can and kiss your own ass goodbye.

Jimbuna · 01-25-08, 07:09 AM

Before I got to the end of your reply, I was gonna make your no3 my no4 :rotfl:

Brag · 01-25-08, 07:35 AM

The first and second specialities I issue is that of repairman. If you have an officer and a petty officer with these qualifications, you stand a much better chance of repairing a badly wounded U-boat.

You may want to read the article Strategies for Survival on my webbie

klh · 01-25-08, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Avatar

Try using the engine order telegraph too. If you boat angle is bow heavy, reverse the engines. If it's stern heavy, use the forward commands.
Other than that, the only other actions are to blow ballast, press the surface key "s," and order a higher depth.

Agreed. I saved my boat once that was going down by the bow. Full reverse on the engines kept me from going too deep just long enough to stop the flooding. I think we got down to 240 metres before we came back up. It was a tense situation, but we survived.

seafarer · 01-25-08, 10:54 AM

Just like the scene in Ice Station Zebra, when they nearly melted the turbines in reverse as the forward torpedo room flooded.

Every subsimmer needs to read:

The Complete Idiot's Guide to Submarines, by Michael DiMercurio, Michael Benson.

Particularly Part I:
section 3 - Keep water out of the People Tank
section 5 - Emergencies; Part one ("Submarines, as you've no doubt gathered, are not the world's safest places to be. Here we begin to look at the worst that can happen, and what to do if it does.")

Avatar · 01-25-08, 02:07 PM

Seafarer,
I've read that book. It's actually very good for an idoits guide. One thing that struck me was how the propellor shafts protrude from the boat; it's because that the pressure of the boat keeps the water out. Brand new news to me!

Sniper_Fox · 01-26-08, 12:10 AM

hope to hell that you've got a sandbox below you before you reach crush depth, if so, all stop and hope the DD's think yoursunk, happend to me in Gibraltar, fixed her up and limped to la spezia leaking fuel everywhere

had every compartment except hydrophone room filling up, the oxygen was well into the red

other than that, all i can say is if no ground is below you, blow ballasts and reverse engines, and set your dive planes for surface, other than that... your sunk!

01-24-08, 05:12 PM	#1
BenG Watch Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 30 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Rescuing a diving boat Is there anyway to resuce a boot that seems to be falling towards the ocean floor. After and attack on a convoy I was trying to make my way out of they and while I was still fairly shallow I was hit by a big DC attack and sent to the dark depths on my way down I tried everythign I could to control the fall I.e. blow ballast and click on a new depth, but by the time control was regaigned the Hull intergerity had fallen so much that the Ub-bot was destryoed (at about 100m) having just been much deeper. In real life a chief of the boat had a few more tools and his disposal e.g. pumping ballast water around to change the trim, control dive planes indidually etc.. is there anythign else I cna do other than tell the CE to make his depth x or to blow ballast? __________________ -Ben Intel Dual Core @ 2.13 GHz (= 4.26 GHz (or so it is claimed!) 4 GB RAM (but due to 32-bit limitation I only get 3.074 GB) Windows Vista (a few compatability issues to begin with but works for me now)

01-24-08, 06:01 PM	#3
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	before any attack on escorted targets be sure toassign a damage control team. If a compartment takes damage the men within the compartment will attempt to repair any damage to that compartment... But they will not be remotely as effective as the damage control team. You will have to tell the damage control team which compartment to repair though... Because their function is NOT automatic. Of corse nobody will repair ANYTHING or fight ANY flooding if you are secured for silent running, so if you wish to make repairs you MUST secure from silent running. Two things will save a sinking boat... 1. Speed; the more speed you have the more effective your dive planes. 2. Blowing ballast; blowing compressed air into the tanks forces the ballast water out giving the boat rise. But you will run out of compressed air eventually. There comes a time when the rate of flooding will overpower the pumps... At this point you have three options. 1. If the boat surfaces, surrender through SH3 Commander. 2. If the sea bed is not deeper than crush depth, strike the bottom and hope that the destroyers loose interest and the damage can be repaired. 3. Bend over as far as you can and kiss your own ass goodbye. __________________

01-25-08, 07:09 AM	#4
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Before I got to the end of your reply, I was gonna make your no3 my no4 :rotfl: __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

01-25-08, 07:35 AM	#5
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	The first and second specialities I issue is that of repairman. If you have an officer and a petty officer with these qualifications, you stand a much better chance of repairing a badly wounded U-boat. You may want to read the article Strategies for Survival on my webbie __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

01-25-08, 10:54 AM	#7
seafarer Commodore Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 622 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Just like the scene in Ice Station Zebra, when they nearly melted the turbines in reverse as the forward torpedo room flooded. Every subsimmer needs to read: The Complete Idiot's Guide to Submarines, by Michael DiMercurio, Michael Benson. Particularly Part I: section 3 - Keep water out of the People Tank section 5 - Emergencies; Part one ("Submarines, as you've no doubt gathered, are not the world's safest places to be. Here we begin to look at the worst that can happen, and what to do if it does.") __________________ My Father's ship, HMCS Waskesiu (K330), sank U257 on 02/24/1944 running SHIII-1.4 with GWX2.1 and SHIV-1.5 with TMO/RSRDC/PE3.3 under MS Vista Home Premium 32-bit SP1 ACER AMD Athlon 64x2 4800+, 4GB DDR2 RAM, 400GB SATA HD Antec TruePower Trio 650watt PSU BFG GeForce 8800GT/OC 512MB VRAM, Samsung 216BW widescreen (1680x1050) LCD

01-24-08, 05:20 PM	#2
Avatar Commodore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Way out there Posts: 603 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Try using the engine order telegraph too. If you boat angle is bow heavy, reverse the engines. If it's stern heavy, use the forward commands. Other than that, the only other actions are to blow ballast, press the surface key "s," and order a higher depth.

01-25-08, 02:07 PM	#8
Avatar Commodore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Way out there Posts: 603 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Seafarer, I've read that book. It's actually very good for an idoits guide. One thing that struck me was how the propellor shafts protrude from the boat; it's because that the pressure of the boat keeps the water out. Brand new news to me!

01-26-08, 12:10 AM	#9
Sniper_Fox Engineer Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: North of Malta, shadowing your pretty little C3 Cargo! Posts: 212 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 0	hope to hell that you've got a sandbox below you before you reach crush depth, if so, all stop and hope the DD's think yoursunk, happend to me in Gibraltar, fixed her up and limped to la spezia leaking fuel everywhere had every compartment except hydrophone room filling up, the oxygen was well into the red other than that, all i can say is if no ground is below you, blow ballasts and reverse engines, and set your dive planes for surface, other than that... your sunk! __________________ Im a one U-boat wolfpack. Ive hit the bottom of the Mediterranian at 250 metres in my VIIC and brought that babe back up, and still made it back to La Spezia. Ive sunk more destroyers than I have merchants...youll wish you never sailed into U-87s hunting grounds. When you pull into port, dont lull yourself into a false sense of security, your mines and subnets are just a petty challenge for my crew and I.