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Old 11-21-07, 04:36 PM   #16
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LOL, you guys will kill me for this I think, but even a very nice bound book I have someone BREAK the binding of it so it will lay flat open for me.
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Old 11-21-07, 06:51 PM   #17
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With a real book I can add notes on the sides, top and bottom of the pages, underline the text and write at the end of the chapters where there's always some empty space. No need to mention marking at which page I last stopped. An e-book has to offer that to me to be of use. However, it also has to be cheap, because I don't want to pay $300 for each further book I want to open at the same time.
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Old 11-21-07, 07:21 PM   #18
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You won't have too. It's $300 (Too much in my eyes) for the hardware and then $9.99 a book at the minute. I'm sure they will come right down though.
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Old 11-22-07, 04:59 AM   #19
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And dropping a real book in the toilet is much less costly.

:rotfl:

Not if its Das Boot.
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Old 11-22-07, 09:53 AM   #20
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LOL, you guys will kill me for this I think, but even a very nice bound book I have someone BREAK the binding of it so it will lay flat open for me.
Nah, books are intended to be used. I routinely mangle mine.

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Rotary Crewman: Not in a 'Haha, told you so way' It will be intereting to see this thread in around 2-3 years time. Only because, like my sceptic self when ebooks first arrived, if peoples opinions have changed.

I'm not saying no to books, but this is something very very useful for people like me.
You may be right, we'll have to see. Part of my objection is the hype Amazon is trying to induce. Just look at their product page, way overblown. (Of course, if you do decide to buy one of these marvelous devices, be sure to use the search box here! :rotfl: )

Seriously, this is nothing more than a laptop or a PDA with improved text reading app. I agree is can be a useful product, but it will not revolutionalize the book. Bezos is just trying to win a second Oscar, methinks he needs to look elsewhere.

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Bezos: "You have a product so revolutionary, you'll have no problem selling it."
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7107118.stm

Sale results are in for the Kindle
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Old 11-23-07, 10:35 AM   #22
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A notice on the Kindle pages on the Amazon web store said "heavy customer demand" for the device meant it would be out of stock until 3 December.
That's not a sales report. So, they had 200 copies in stock and sold them... that report sounds more like "this product is so great, we sold out and cannot keep up with orders; so, see? It is a great product and since everyone else is getting it, you should want one too!".
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$300.00 up front. $9.99 per book. Sorry, it still does not add up for me. I purchase all my books from Amazon. I purchased only used books. My price and including shipping is usually under $12.00 per book. I do not need to recharge or change the batteries in my books. I can read them over and over, refer back to them, make notes or resell them if I wish. I have enough electronic gizzmoes in my life, do not need another.
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Old 11-23-07, 12:23 PM   #24
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A notice on the Kindle pages on the Amazon web store said "heavy customer demand" for the device meant it would be out of stock until 3 December.
That's not a sales report. So, they had 200 copies in stock and sold them... that report sounds more like "this product is so great, we sold out and cannot keep up with orders; so, see? It is a great product and since everyone else is getting it, you should want one too!".


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Old 11-24-07, 09:44 AM   #25
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It never fails, a smart guy has a good idea, succeeds and garners riches and accolades... so what does he do for an encore? Tries to hype a $300 electronic book reader ?

Don't get me wrong, I love new technologies, and I'm aware in 5 years it is possible I may do a 180 and be touting the greatness of the e-book (but I doubt it), and there could be some good uses for having 200 books close at hand, but this just seems to be the opposite of what really appeals to me in reading, namely the actual feel of holding, carrying, and reading a book, turing pages, and feeling some connection to the greatest on man's technologies. I also like books to get away from computers for a while.

I agree, the feeling of having a real book in your hands is something that an e-reader will never reproduce.
Then there is the thorny question of DRM : physical books last decades if not centuries not so with time-bomb drm e-books.
Give me an e-reader with drm-free e-books and i'll try it, but anything less and it goes strait out the window.
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