Is TM compatible with low-realism gaming style?

Amiral Crapaud · 08-29-07, 01:57 PM

My dad is gonna play SH4, and I want it to the best game possible. I suppose the latest Tmaru is the logical choice.

The problem is that my dad doesn't have the same idea of gaming as I do. He will play it quite acadly, cuz he wants it to feel like good old Silent Service II. My question is: is Tmaru compatible with low-level realism gaming, or do certain improvements make this kind of combination get into conflict, frustrating for a casual player like him?

Thanks!

AJ

Von Manteuffel · 08-29-07, 01:59 PM

It can be. He just has to play at 0% Realism.

Amiral Crapaud · 08-29-07, 02:03 PM

Well he doesn't want a shoot'em up either

But is a 30% (well ok that's pretty much a shoot em up at this point) realism game with vanilla and with TMaru pretty much equivalent? I suppose so...?

Von Manteuffel · 08-29-07, 03:11 PM

Funny thing about the generations - usually it's the older people who want gaming which absorbs and immerses them, while the younger ones want super-fast action. My son and I are that way. Your dad must be the exception that proves the rule. Why not let him explore the realism settings and sort it out for himself?

ReallyDedPoet · 08-29-07, 06:21 PM

Have your Dad play Stock 1.3 on limited realism for awhile first. Trigger Maru ramps up the AI among other things.

RDP

Excalibur Bane · 08-29-07, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by reallydedpoet

Have your Dad play Stock 1.3 on limited realism for awhile first. Trigger Maru ramps up the AI among other things.

RDP

Agreed. Install a mod to tone down the nuclear depth charges as well. If he decides to play on zero realism or lower realism settings, you may wish to alter the gameplay settings file so that one of the options you do have turned on is worth more realism as this will prevent an issue where you end up with a ton of crew who are ready for promotion but you haven't been awarded enough promotions for all of them. Hope he enjoys it.

On a related note, the game is hardly a shooter, even at zero realism. Your torpedoes can still dud if you get a bad angle on the target and I can assure you, the depth charges and aircraft bombs are just as deadly. I'm growing weary of this stigma that seems to exist that everyone who doesn't play hard core, balls to the walls realism is a total sissy. We all play the game the way we want, as long as we have fun...right?

Amiral Crapaud · 08-30-07, 09:57 AM

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Funny thing about the generations - usually it's the older people who want gaming which absorbs and immerses them, while the younger ones want super-fast action. My son and I are that way. Your dad must be the exception that proves the rule. Why not let him explore the realism settings and sort it out for himself?

Because he was a pioneer at the time of Silent Service II, and would like to experience the same things with a modern simulation

But actually yesterday he had his first demo of the beast with me playing full realism minus external view, and he indeed found some fun in collecting targeting data manually (even though the SH3 german system was fitting me much better...)

Thanks to everyone for the tips.

Excalibur, it's not really a debate with realism for dad. Actually he was playing full realism... At the time of Silent Service II, and what he wanted was some kind of updated SS2, a game which had undoubtedly a very contemporary approach to the sub simulation, and was outstanding for a 1990 product: simple, functionnal, and as realist as it could get at that time. Fortunately SH3 customisable settings allow for such things (automatically updated contacts, etc..., I hope he'll find what he needs, and discover some new stuff too

Ok, we'll go for 1.3 for now. We'll get serious with TMaru when he'll feel like having a little more challenge

thanks all!

AJ

ReallyDedPoet · 08-30-07, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Alain-James

Ok, we'll go for 1.3 for now. We'll get serious with TMaru when he'll feel like having a little more challenge

Good decision, enjoy

Also, be sure to check out all of the other great mods at some point in time as well.

RDP

tater · 08-30-07, 12:18 PM

The TM FAQ also tells you how to drop the AI levels by deleteing a few of the sensor mods from the TM folders. Do that, and you get TM with stock AI capability, or somethign in between if you leave some and delete others.

Check the FAQ on the first TM post in the thread.

tater

08-29-07, 01:57 PM	#1
Amiral Crapaud Electrician's Mate Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 139 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Is TM compatible with low-realism gaming style? My dad is gonna play SH4, and I want it to the best game possible. I suppose the latest Tmaru is the logical choice. The problem is that my dad doesn't have the same idea of gaming as I do. He will play it quite acadly, cuz he wants it to feel like good old Silent Service II. My question is: is Tmaru compatible with low-level realism gaming, or do certain improvements make this kind of combination get into conflict, frustrating for a casual player like him? Thanks! AJ

08-29-07, 06:21 PM	#5
ReallyDedPoet Canadian Wolf Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada. The one and only, East Coast Posts: 10,888 Downloads: 946 Uploads: 5	Have your Dad play Stock 1.3 on limited realism for awhile first. Trigger Maru ramps up the AI among other things. RDP __________________ Back in the Day

08-29-07, 01:59 PM	#2
Von Manteuffel Commander Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 473 Downloads: 411 Uploads: 0	It can be. He just has to play at 0% Realism.

08-29-07, 02:03 PM	#3
Amiral Crapaud Electrician's Mate Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 139 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Well he doesn't want a shoot'em up either But is a 30% (well ok that's pretty much a shoot em up at this point) realism game with vanilla and with TMaru pretty much equivalent? I suppose so...?

08-29-07, 03:11 PM	#4
Von Manteuffel Commander Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 473 Downloads: 411 Uploads: 0	Funny thing about the generations - usually it's the older people who want gaming which absorbs and immerses them, while the younger ones want super-fast action. My son and I are that way. Your dad must be the exception that proves the rule. Why not let him explore the realism settings and sort it out for himself?

08-30-07, 12:18 PM	#9
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	The TM FAQ also tells you how to drop the AI levels by deleteing a few of the sensor mods from the TM folders. Do that, and you get TM with stock AI capability, or somethign in between if you leave some and delete others. Check the FAQ on the first TM post in the thread. tater