Storms and ASW, GWX

Avatar · 07-27-07, 02:44 PM

Hello,
If there is a serious storm going on, will ASW efforts be hampered? Especially ASW aircraft.
Early in the war, there is no radar to guide asw a/c, but would visual searches be disrupted?
Also, does the amount of surface noise interfere with sonar, or is it modelled?
thanks

Heibges · 07-27-07, 02:53 PM

I have had escorts pass within 450m of me on the surface in heavy storms and not detect me.

Avatar · 07-27-07, 03:01 PM

Yes, on second thought visual hampering is moddelled(I forgot about the set depth 7m and attack a convoy in rough weather). I am now wondereing about the overcast clouds and submarine detectability. If there is such a thing as calm seas with overcast clouds, would those clouds hamper visual efforts to detect a submarine on the surface?

ReM · 07-27-07, 03:15 PM

If you have problems with the weather, there is a weather modder that starts when you fire up SHIII commander...that way you can choose your weather, at least for the start of your mission.

Stormy weather does make the boat less detectable.....windy weather with nice waves makes for happy hunting! No use of the deck gun regrettably...

Avatar · 07-27-07, 03:20 PM

Oh, by all means, no. I'm not having any problems with the weather anymore. I d/l the weather mod and got into some serious problems with SH3 Commander. But I did a complete uninstall and reinstall of everything(except the weathermod) and now things are peachy keen.
I am reading "Wolfpack," an Osprey Publishing book(I think) and in there is written how a Uboat commander orders the deck crew into action because the sky is overcast and, therefore relatively safe to conduct surface engagements. Just curious if this is modelled?

ReM · 07-27-07, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Avatar

Oh, by all means, no. I'm not having any problems with the weather anymore. I d/l the weather mod and got into some serious problems with SH3 Commander. But I did a complete uninstall and reinstall of everything(except the weathermod) and now things are peachy keen.
I am reading "Wolfpack," an Osprey Publishing book(I think) and in there is written how a Uboat commander orders the deck crew into action because the sky is overcast and, therefore relatively safe to conduct surface engagements. Just curious if this is modelled?

I don't know, what I do know is that later in the war, when the Allies started to use centimetric radar no U-boat is safe on the surface, overcast skies or not.

Penelope_Grey · 07-27-07, 03:30 PM

All I knows is in rough seas its safe to go at 3 knots rather than the usual 2.

Jimbuna · 07-27-07, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ReM

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Originally Posted by Avatar

Oh, by all means, no. I'm not having any problems with the weather anymore. I d/l the weather mod and got into some serious problems with SH3 Commander. But I did a complete uninstall and reinstall of everything(except the weathermod) and now things are peachy keen.
I am reading "Wolfpack," an Osprey Publishing book(I think) and in there is written how a Uboat commander orders the deck crew into action because the sky is overcast and, therefore relatively safe to conduct surface engagements. Just curious if this is modelled?

I don't know, what I do know is that later in the war, when the Allies started to use centimetric radar no U-boat is safe on the surface, overcast skies or not.

IMO it is

As stated earlier, if the weather is too bad your gun crew will not be allowed on deck

Kaleun Hals · 07-27-07, 04:28 PM

Bad weather is my best friend at the moment...heavy fog means you can sneak right up to an escort before sending him to the bottom. I even managed to get to within 500m of a Black Swan, late 1940, undetected.

Use the bad weather as your ally, with regular soundchecks at say 30m depth.

Of course, if I make it to 1942 I may change tactics...

Kpt. Lehmann · 07-27-07, 04:57 PM

Yes. Bad weather in SH3 does hamper the ASW a bit, making it tougher for them to detect you as in real life.

Brag · 07-27-07, 05:19 PM

Attacking in calm weather is a lot more difficult.

With overcast skies aircraft are less likely to detect you. However, beware of radar.

07-27-07, 02:44 PM	#1
Avatar Commodore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Way out there Posts: 603 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Storms and ASW, GWX Hello, If there is a serious storm going on, will ASW efforts be hampered? Especially ASW aircraft. Early in the war, there is no radar to guide asw a/c, but would visual searches be disrupted? Also, does the amount of surface noise interfere with sonar, or is it modelled? thanks

07-27-07, 02:53 PM	#2
Heibges Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,633 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I have had escorts pass within 450m of me on the surface in heavy storms and not detect me. __________________ U.Kdt.Hdb B. I. 28) This possibility of using the hydrophone to help in detecting surface ships should, however, be restricted to those cases where the submarine is unavoidably compelled to stay below the surface. http://www.hackworth.com/

07-27-07, 03:15 PM	#4
ReM Commodore Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Brewsky, Galore Posts: 618 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	If you have problems with the weather, there is a weather modder that starts when you fire up SHIII commander...that way you can choose your weather, at least for the start of your mission. Stormy weather does make the boat less detectable.....windy weather with nice waves makes for happy hunting! No use of the deck gun regrettably... __________________ Daddy cool

07-27-07, 03:30 PM	#7
Penelope_Grey Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: UK Posts: 1,893 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	All I knows is in rough seas its safe to go at 3 knots rather than the usual 2. __________________ I SURVIVED THE FIRST EVER SUBSIM WEREWOLF HUNT - and... I actually won the game for the humans too!

07-27-07, 04:28 PM	#9
Kaleun Hals Watch Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Hull, UK. Posts: 18 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Bad weather is my best friend at the moment...heavy fog means you can sneak right up to an escort before sending him to the bottom. I even managed to get to within 500m of a Black Swan, late 1940, undetected. Use the bad weather as your ally, with regular soundchecks at say 30m depth. Of course, if I make it to 1942 I may change tactics... __________________ "...U-boat special cocktail, want some ?"

07-27-07, 03:01 PM	#3
Avatar Commodore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Way out there Posts: 603 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Yes, on second thought visual hampering is moddelled(I forgot about the set depth 7m and attack a convoy in rough weather). I am now wondereing about the overcast clouds and submarine detectability. If there is such a thing as calm seas with overcast clouds, would those clouds hamper visual efforts to detect a submarine on the surface?

07-27-07, 03:20 PM	#5
Avatar Commodore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Way out there Posts: 603 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Oh, by all means, no. I'm not having any problems with the weather anymore. I d/l the weather mod and got into some serious problems with SH3 Commander. But I did a complete uninstall and reinstall of everything(except the weathermod) and now things are peachy keen. I am reading "Wolfpack," an Osprey Publishing book(I think) and in there is written how a Uboat commander orders the deck crew into action because the sky is overcast and, therefore relatively safe to conduct surface engagements. Just curious if this is modelled?

07-27-07, 04:57 PM	#10
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,994 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	Yes. Bad weather in SH3 does hamper the ASW a bit, making it tougher for them to detect you as in real life. __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

07-27-07, 05:19 PM	#11
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Attacking in calm weather is a lot more difficult. With overcast skies aircraft are less likely to detect you. However, beware of radar. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/