Sea Currents

IrischKapitan · 07-26-07, 02:53 PM

I was reading Werner's Iron Coffins (great book!! well worth a read!!) and I remembering him mentioning about a 12knt current flowing through the Straits of Gibralter (that could be handy........). Are these currents replicated in GWX or any other mods? Or are any other sea currents replicated :hmm:.

Brag · 07-26-07, 04:08 PM

I don't think sea currents are factored into SH3

!2 knots in Gibraltar? Highly unlikely maybe 2-3 kts. You would need pretty large tidal differences to create such a current. The tidal differences in the Med are very small.

stuartcphillips · 07-26-07, 04:16 PM

I'm pretty sure the current was modelled in Aces of Deep, as I remember drifting through the Strait a la Das Boot style. I'm not sure if it is modelled in SH3, but I may be getting my sims mixed up here....

Hartmann · 07-26-07, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by stuartcphillips

I'm pretty sure the current was modelled in Aces of Deep, as I remember drifting through the Strait a la Das Boot style. I'm not sure if it is modelled in SH3, but I may be getting my sims mixed up here....

Yes. it´s true.

i remember too drifting in the strait, but also it makes nearly impossible return to the atlantic submerged, as it was in the reality

Kpt. Lehmann · 07-26-07, 06:52 PM

There is some "drift" in SH3... but nothing that can be called "current."

TarJak · 07-26-07, 07:53 PM

Certainly no currents running at 12kt.

Iron Budokan · 07-26-07, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by IrischKapitan

I was reading Werner's Iron Coffins (great book!! well worth a read!!) and I remembering him mentioning about a 12knt current flowing through the Straits of Gibralter (that could be handy........). Are these currents replicated in GWX or any other mods? Or are any other sea currents replicated :hmm:.

No, it's not modeled in SH3 but I wish it were....

Heibges · 07-26-07, 11:36 PM

At high TC I notice the rudder flickers back and forth.

Isn't this correcting for the current? Or is it correcting for the wind?

Thniper · 07-27-07, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Brag

I don't think sea currents are factored into SH3

!2 knots in Gibraltar? Highly unlikely maybe 2-3 kts. You would need pretty large tidal differences to create such a current. The tidal differences in the Med are very small.

Ahem, my dear Mr. Brag, I have to correct you a little bit.

It isn't the tidal differences that create the water exchange in the Med.
It's the difference in water density.
The Med water is more dense due to evaporation, it sinks to the bottom and flows out of the Med.
Atlantic 'light' water flows into the Med to compensate the water loss due to evaporation.

The Atlantic water current flows with about 5 to 10 km/h into the Med.

And it isn't simulated in SH3.

Thniper

Brag · 07-27-07, 11:48 AM

Monseur Thnipper,

You're absolutrely correct!
My remark was concerning 12 kts of current, which is not frequent and can be caused onlt by tidal differences.

To add to your comments, there is also a deep underwater current of about 1-3 knots flowing out of the med into the Atlantic. It was discovered by U Boats.

btaft · 07-27-07, 12:00 PM

http://www.faocopemed.org/reports/tu...orme/task1.pdf

Here is everything you ever wanted to know but were afraid to ask about currents in the straits of gibraltar

Avatar · 07-27-07, 02:57 PM

Hello all,
if you order all stop and then up the TC really high, you'll see your boat moving back and forth a little. Not really a current, though...

07-26-07, 02:53 PM	#1
IrischKapitan Ensign Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Waiting for convoys of the coast of Donegal Posts: 227 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Sea Currents I was reading Werner's Iron Coffins (great book!! well worth a read!!) and I remembering him mentioning about a 12knt current flowing through the Straits of Gibralter (that could be handy........). Are these currents replicated in GWX or any other mods? Or are any other sea currents replicated :hmm:. __________________ ''Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better'' SAVE U 534!! http://www.atlantik-pirat.com/U-534page.htm

07-26-07, 04:08 PM	#2
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I don't think sea currents are factored into SH3 !2 knots in Gibraltar? Highly unlikely maybe 2-3 kts. You would need pretty large tidal differences to create such a current. The tidal differences in the Med are very small. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

07-26-07, 06:52 PM	#5
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 6,993 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	There is some "drift" in SH3... but nothing that can be called "current." __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

07-26-07, 11:36 PM	#8
Heibges Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,633 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	At high TC I notice the rudder flickers back and forth. Isn't this correcting for the current? Or is it correcting for the wind? __________________ U.Kdt.Hdb B. I. 28) This possibility of using the hydrophone to help in detecting surface ships should, however, be restricted to those cases where the submarine is unavoidably compelled to stay below the surface. http://www.hackworth.com/

07-27-07, 11:48 AM	#10
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Monseur Thnipper, You're absolutrely correct! My remark was concerning 12 kts of current, which is not frequent and can be caused onlt by tidal differences. To add to your comments, there is also a deep underwater current of about 1-3 knots flowing out of the med into the Atlantic. It was discovered by U Boats. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

07-26-07, 04:16 PM	#3
stuartcphillips Swabbie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 8 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	I'm pretty sure the current was modelled in Aces of Deep, as I remember drifting through the Strait a la Das Boot style. I'm not sure if it is modelled in SH3, but I may be getting my sims mixed up here....

07-26-07, 07:53 PM	#6
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	Certainly no currents running at 12kt.

07-27-07, 12:00 PM	#11
btaft Soundman Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 147 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	http://www.faocopemed.org/reports/tu...orme/task1.pdf Here is everything you ever wanted to know but were afraid to ask about currents in the straits of gibraltar

07-27-07, 02:57 PM	#12
Avatar Commodore Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Way out there Posts: 603 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Hello all, if you order all stop and then up the TC really high, you'll see your boat moving back and forth a little. Not really a current, though...