Diving REALLY Deep?

bsalyers · 07-08-07, 10:35 PM

I see in published accounts that O'Kane took TANG well below test depth, and in game, I've survived incredible depths before eventually being crushed. My question is, how can I order a depth that is beyond the maximum portrayed on the gauge? I know the game recognizes greater depths, because they are listed as you sink. Any ideas?

gg5056 · 07-08-07, 10:46 PM

I took a gato class to 450ft. with no problems. game incidates crash deep was 325ft.

rodan54 · 07-09-07, 12:53 AM

Press the 'd' key to execute a dive, then once you reach the desired depth, press 'a' to level out.

bsalyers · 07-09-07, 12:57 AM

Thanks, rodan54!

Sailor Steve · 07-09-07, 10:29 AM

Which brings up an interesting point: if the real guage has a limit, how did they know how deep they were? I firmly believe U.S. fleet subs could dive a lot deeper than the official limits, but how did they know?

vatek · 07-09-07, 12:41 PM

I suppose you could guesstimate by knowing the divisions on the depth gauge. Like the scene in Das Boot during the Gibraltar sequence when they're at a depth deeper than the gauge shows.

IE:

|...|...|
1...2...3...4...5

That only works to a certain depth however. I don't think the in-game gauge does that.

Bill Nichols · 07-09-07, 12:50 PM

The answer is here:

http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php...,59238,quote=1

Conversion from sea pressure to depth: every 100ft = 44 psi increase in pressure.

ps. Note that the article above has a math error. 375psi = 852 ft, NOT 750 ft.

Sailor Steve · 07-09-07, 03:47 PM

Nothing like a direct reference. Thanks, Professor N.

TwistedFemur · 07-09-07, 05:26 PM

I took a Gato to 768ft before she imploded I got the screen saying that Ive disgraced the navy and been thrown into chains. :hmm:

nomad_delta · 07-09-07, 05:45 PM

My poor Tambor class only made it down to about 370ft before imploding.

nomad_delta

Werewolf13 · 07-09-07, 08:22 PM

In the book Clear the Bridge by Richard O'Kane he states that while on sea trials he took the Tang down to 625+ feet. He mentions that the depth gauge pegged out at 600 feet.

While serving on USS Sandlance, SSN-660 the very first watch I stood was monitoring a pressure gauge in the Engine Room Upper level while doing angles and dangles. I was on sound powered phones and was required to read out the pressure at regular intervals during the exercise. Boring as hell and at the time I had no clue why I was doing it (backup to depth gauges up forward). So if WWII subs had pressure gauges it would have been easy for them to keep track of depth using pressure - someone could have just made a table that could have been read from.

Bill Nichols · 07-09-07, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Werewolf13

In the book Clear the Bridge by Richard O'Kane he states that while on sea trials he took the Tang down to 625+ feet. He mentions that the depth gauge pegged out at 600 feet.

While serving on USS Sandlance, SSN-660 the very first watch I stood was monitoring a pressure gauge in the Engine Room Upper level while doing angles and dangles. I was on sound powered phones and was required to read out the pressure at regular intervals during the exercise. Boring as hell and at the time I had no clue why I was doing it (backup to depth gauges up forward). So if WWII subs had pressure gauges it would have been easy for them to keep track of depth using pressure - someone could have just made a table that could have been read from.

Certainly they had pressure gauges. From the item I referenced above:

"In one action in the Pacific the Tang lost depth control, leaving the control room depth gauge pinned past its max reading of 600ft for a LOOONG time. Long afterwards, when they were both POW's, a forward torpedoman told O'Kane that he saw an external pressure gauge in that compartment go past 375psi (750ft [sic - should actually be 850!] depth), but decided not to tell O'Kane lest he decide the boat was safe to such an extreme depth and use it routinely in battle!"

07-08-07, 10:35 PM	#1
bsalyers Sparky Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: North Hollywood, CA Posts: 152 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Diving REALLY Deep? I see in published accounts that O'Kane took TANG well below test depth, and in game, I've survived incredible depths before eventually being crushed. My question is, how can I order a depth that is beyond the maximum portrayed on the gauge? I know the game recognizes greater depths, because they are listed as you sink. Any ideas? __________________ I had a life back in the Real World... before I discovered SubSims.

07-08-07, 10:46 PM	#2
gg5056 Torpedoman Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: fl Posts: 112 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Deep Dive. I took a gato class to 450ft. with no problems. game incidates crash deep was 325ft.

07-09-07, 12:57 AM	#4
bsalyers Sparky Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: North Hollywood, CA Posts: 152 Downloads: 46 Uploads: 0	Thanks, rodan54! __________________ I had a life back in the Real World... before I discovered SubSims.

07-09-07, 10:29 AM	#5
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Which brings up an interesting point: if the real guage has a limit, how did they know how deep they were? I firmly believe U.S. fleet subs could dive a lot deeper than the official limits, but how did they know? __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-09-07, 12:50 PM	#7
Bill Nichols Master of Defense Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 1,502 Downloads: 125 Uploads: 0	The answer is here: http://www.uboat.net/forums/read.php...,59238,quote=1 Conversion from sea pressure to depth: every 100ft = 44 psi increase in pressure. ps. Note that the article above has a math error. 375psi = 852 ft, NOT 750 ft. __________________ My Dangerous Waters website:

07-09-07, 12:53 AM	#3
rodan54 Navy Dude Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: California, USA Posts: 176 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	Press the 'd' key to execute a dive, then once you reach the desired depth, press 'a' to level out.

07-09-07, 12:41 PM	#6
vatek Sailor man Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 44 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I suppose you could guesstimate by knowing the divisions on the depth gauge. Like the scene in Das Boot during the Gibraltar sequence when they're at a depth deeper than the gauge shows. IE: \|...\|...\| 1...2...3...4...5 That only works to a certain depth however. I don't think the in-game gauge does that.

07-09-07, 03:47 PM	#8
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Nothing like a direct reference. Thanks, Professor N. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-09-07, 05:26 PM	#9
TwistedFemur Frogman Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 302 Downloads: 72 Uploads: 0	I took a Gato to 768ft before she imploded I got the screen saying that Ive disgraced the navy and been thrown into chains. :hmm: __________________ <a href="http://www.dewmocracy.com" target="_blank"><img src="http://www.dewmocracy.com/images/banner_distortion.jpg" border="0" alt="Vote for MTN DEW(R) Distortion(TM) - Dewmocracy.com" /></a>

07-09-07, 05:45 PM	#10
nomad_delta Planesman Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 185 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	My poor Tambor class only made it down to about 370ft before imploding. nomad_delta

07-09-07, 08:22 PM	#11
Werewolf13 Torpedoman Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: The HEART of Fly Over Country Posts: 120 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	In the book Clear the Bridge by Richard O'Kane he states that while on sea trials he took the Tang down to 625+ feet. He mentions that the depth gauge pegged out at 600 feet. While serving on USS Sandlance, SSN-660 the very first watch I stood was monitoring a pressure gauge in the Engine Room Upper level while doing angles and dangles. I was on sound powered phones and was required to read out the pressure at regular intervals during the exercise. Boring as hell and at the time I had no clue why I was doing it (backup to depth gauges up forward). So if WWII subs had pressure gauges it would have been easy for them to keep track of depth using pressure - someone could have just made a table that could have been read from. __________________ Peace is good... Freedom is BETTER!