My news is better than your news, etc

Tchocky · 06-14-07, 01:08 AM

Given the polemical nature of some of the discussions here, and rampant shooting of messengers, here's a ranking of accountability and transparency of certain news outlets

Ta-da!

http://www.icmpa.umd.edu/pages/studi...ency/main.html

Letum · 06-14-07, 01:28 AM

Shame they don't list the major English papers.

BBC for me, good on em!

Tchocky · 06-14-07, 01:29 AM

Check the top o' the list, boyo!

CCIP · 06-14-07, 01:59 AM

What? FoxNews isn't in the negatives? Blasphemy! :rotfl:

Reaves · 06-14-07, 02:04 AM

No Aussie papers.

But then again I suppose the Herald Sun is just another Newscorp company while The Age is Fairfax.

Hehe and our big cable news company Sky is listed as bad!

robbo180265 · 06-14-07, 02:05 AM

The Gaurdian is my paper of choice

Tchocky · 06-14-07, 02:08 AM

I read The Gruniard on the web daily, looking forward to getting it in print back at home

CCIP · 06-14-07, 02:09 AM

I'm a BBC reader myself. Always thought they'd be rated somewhere up there, good on them indeed

Konovalov · 06-14-07, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by robbo180265

The Gaurdian is my paper of choice

As is mine along with the Times (UK).

P_Funk · 06-14-07, 05:06 AM

I don't see how they can place CNN below FoxNews. I mean CNN is just opportunistic and tends to swing with the political winds, but they at least mention real facts most of the time. Fox news is intent of spreading a certain agenda and slants every story it can the same way. Lou Dobbs Tonight might be particularly partisan but at least it isnt presented as legit news coverage. Fox just says what it says like its the god's truth... once its gone through the Rupert Murdoch filtering process of course.

fatty · 06-14-07, 05:14 AM

What, no Jihad Watch? :hmm:

Skybird · 06-14-07, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by fatty

What, no Jihad Watch? :hmm:

It's no paper, although it often refers to papers.

One should not read too much into that analysis and listing of papers. The outcome of such projects is predetermined by the criterions of those who conduct it. The only way to reduce the danger of getting fooled and misled by narrow perspectives is to increase the diversity of the sources you read, and try to cover the specrtum from one side to the other. that'S why I skim at least the front pages of over one dozen papers from Germany, Britain and the US, and if a story interests me I add even more specific and international sources from France (not many in English they have), Russia, Israel etc.

Try to read both what you like and what you don't like in opinion on an issue. Don'T stay with only that that you would like to hear - you become a narrow-minded idiot by that only.

robbo180265 · 06-14-07, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Try to read both what you like and what you don't like in opinion on an issue. Don'T stay with only that that you would like to hear - you become a narrow-minded idiot by that only.

Wise words indeed Skybird

Oberon · 06-14-07, 05:55 AM

I guess 'The Sun' was so low it didn't even show up on the chart...in fact, perhaps it's somewhere at the bottom of this page...or on the floor below the computer? :hmm:

P_Funk · 06-14-07, 06:23 AM

Skybird is totally right. You can't rely on your preferred source for information, because a lefty might scoff at Foxnews but he is just as guilty of narrowmindedness as the FoxNews zealot because he allows a narrow stream of information to characterize his world view. That I diversify my sources is why I'm able to articulate why FoxNews is crap.:p Its also why I'm able to notice when my preferred source does the same thing as the one I scoff at. That said its harder to be aware and sometimes you just want to not care.

Critical thinking is the key really. Analyse and accept what can be proved, everything is permissible.

Skybird really is a treasure around here. He reminds us of what we REALLY should be saying sometimes.

Cheers mate

06-14-07, 01:08 AM	#1
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	My news is better than your news, etc Given the polemical nature of some of the discussions here, and rampant shooting of messengers, here's a ranking of accountability and transparency of certain news outlets Ta-da! http://www.icmpa.umd.edu/pages/studi...ency/main.html __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

06-14-07, 01:28 AM	#2
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Shame they don't list the major English papers. BBC for me, good on em! __________________

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Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Check the top o' the list, boyo! __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	What? FoxNews isn't in the negatives? Blasphemy! :rotfl: __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

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Reaves The Old Man Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 1,509 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	No Aussie papers. But then again I suppose the Herald Sun is just another Newscorp company while The Age is Fairfax. Hehe and our big cable news company Sky is listed as bad! __________________

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robbo180265 Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brighton, England.Party capital of the south Posts: 2,255 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	The Gaurdian is my paper of choice

06-14-07, 02:08 AM	#7
Tchocky Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,874 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	I read The Gruniard on the web daily, looking forward to getting it in print back at home __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

06-14-07, 02:09 AM	#8
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	I'm a BBC reader myself. Always thought they'd be rated somewhere up there, good on them indeed __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

06-14-07, 05:06 AM	#10
P_Funk Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 2,537 Downloads: 129 Uploads: 0	I don't see how they can place CNN below FoxNews. I mean CNN is just opportunistic and tends to swing with the political winds, but they at least mention real facts most of the time. Fox news is intent of spreading a certain agenda and slants every story it can the same way. Lou Dobbs Tonight might be particularly partisan but at least it isnt presented as legit news coverage. Fox just says what it says like its the god's truth... once its gone through the Rupert Murdoch filtering process of course. __________________

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fatty The Old Man Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,448 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	What, no Jihad Watch? :hmm:

06-14-07, 05:55 AM	#14
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	I guess 'The Sun' was so low it didn't even show up on the chart...in fact, perhaps it's somewhere at the bottom of this page...or on the floor below the computer? :hmm:

06-14-07, 06:23 AM	#15
P_Funk Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 2,537 Downloads: 129 Uploads: 0	Skybird is totally right. You can't rely on your preferred source for information, because a lefty might scoff at Foxnews but he is just as guilty of narrowmindedness as the FoxNews zealot because he allows a narrow stream of information to characterize his world view. That I diversify my sources is why I'm able to articulate why FoxNews is crap.:p Its also why I'm able to notice when my preferred source does the same thing as the one I scoff at. That said its harder to be aware and sometimes you just want to not care. Critical thinking is the key really. Analyse and accept what can be proved, everything is permissible. Skybird really is a treasure around here. He reminds us of what we REALLY should be saying sometimes. Cheers mate __________________