Advice on route to the US please.

Vacillator · 06-07-07, 07:41 AM

In game of course

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After a long trip to Florida in my IXC which was not particulalry well planned, I got to thinking what would real life Kaleuns do to reach the US?

I headed across to Canada and then worked my way down the coast always maintaining useful depth under my keel. Would I have been better off drawing a straight line from Lorient to Florida? Well, yes fuel-wise I imagine, particularly as the weather could not have been worse than the stinker of a storm we got. But maybe I would encounter less contacts?

Anyone know what the historical routes were? Were Kaleuns left to their own devices like we are?

As mentioned in another thread I'm on my way back now via Bermuda but that's not going too well either

Jimbuna · 06-07-07, 08:06 AM

You might want to look at the in game map and try to sail along a known convoy route

Vacillator · 06-07-07, 08:12 AM

Jim, you always point out the obvious to me

! Now why didn't I think of that

So is that what WW2 Kaleuns did, assuming they had enough intel on convoy routes built up?

Jimbuna · 06-07-07, 08:28 AM

Well...they tried, but we cracked their codes and rerouted the convoys usually, which meant that quite often they hung about known or suspected convoy routes and never saw a sausage

Don't worry though......no such turn of events has ever been scripted into SH3

....AFAIK

Puster Bill · 06-07-07, 08:40 AM

Well, I generally head North, then turn left real sudden like....

Vacillator · 06-07-07, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Puster Bill

Well, I generally head North, then turn left real sudden like....

North from Lorient? Could get messy

So not the straight line to Florida approach?

Brag · 06-07-07, 09:05 AM

In the real world (which is a globe) ships crossing the Atlantic used (still use) a great circle route, which is the shortest way. This would mean going close to Greenland in a sort of an arc.

The SH world is flat, so a straight line is the shortest route.

Puster Bill · 06-07-07, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Vacillator

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Originally Posted by Puster Bill

Well, I generally head North, then turn left real sudden like....

North from Lorient? Could get messy

So not the straight line to Florida approach?

Technically the appropriate course is a Great Circle, so there would be a bit of a northern component to your travel, at least initially.

Really, though, I was parodying a line from "Last of the Mohicans".

Vacillator · 06-07-07, 11:02 AM

Sorry Bill, I missed that. Have seen the film but it was many moons ago.

Rose · 06-07-07, 11:57 AM

Great movie

KeptinCranky · 06-07-07, 01:57 PM

In Sh3: get out of Biscay pronto head southwest , then when you're about due west from Lisbon set course 270 and Immer Gerade Aus! set speed to 9 knots for fuel economy and bring some reading material. it might take a while but you get there eventually

in RL they of course went north towards greenland and back south again

Reverie · 06-08-07, 02:31 AM

Just do your boat and crew a favour...stay away from Nova Scotia

the air is thick up there...tired bees.
Reverie

06-07-07, 07:41 AM	#1
Vacillator Frogman Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 307 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Advice on route to the US please. In game of course . After a long trip to Florida in my IXC which was not particulalry well planned, I got to thinking what would real life Kaleuns do to reach the US? I headed across to Canada and then worked my way down the coast always maintaining useful depth under my keel. Would I have been better off drawing a straight line from Lorient to Florida? Well, yes fuel-wise I imagine, particularly as the weather could not have been worse than the stinker of a storm we got. But maybe I would encounter less contacts? Anyone know what the historical routes were? Were Kaleuns left to their own devices like we are? As mentioned in another thread I'm on my way back now via Bermuda but that's not going too well either

06-07-07, 08:06 AM	#2
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	You might want to look at the in game map and try to sail along a known convoy route __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

06-07-07, 08:28 AM	#4
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Well...they tried, but we cracked their codes and rerouted the convoys usually, which meant that quite often they hung about known or suspected convoy routes and never saw a sausage Don't worry though......no such turn of events has ever been scripted into SH3 ....AFAIK __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

06-07-07, 08:40 AM	#5
Puster Bill Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2006 Location: BA8758, or FN33eh for my fellow hams. Posts: 833 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well, I generally head North, then turn left real sudden like.... __________________ The U-Boat Commander of Love

06-07-07, 09:05 AM	#7
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	In the real world (which is a globe) ships crossing the Atlantic used (still use) a great circle route, which is the shortest way. This would mean going close to Greenland in a sort of an arc. The SH world is flat, so a straight line is the shortest route. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

06-07-07, 08:12 AM	#3
Vacillator Frogman Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 307 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Jim, you always point out the obvious to me ! Now why didn't I think of that So is that what WW2 Kaleuns did, assuming they had enough intel on convoy routes built up?

06-07-07, 11:02 AM	#9
Vacillator Frogman Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: UK Posts: 307 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Sorry Bill, I missed that. Have seen the film but it was many moons ago.

06-07-07, 11:57 AM	#10
Rose Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 966 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Great movie

06-07-07, 01:57 PM	#11
KeptinCranky Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Netherlands Posts: 1,050 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	In Sh3: get out of Biscay pronto head southwest , then when you're about due west from Lisbon set course 270 and Immer Gerade Aus! set speed to 9 knots for fuel economy and bring some reading material. it might take a while but you get there eventually in RL they of course went north towards greenland and back south again

06-08-07, 02:31 AM	#12
Reverie Planesman Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 195 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	Just do your boat and crew a favour...stay away from Nova Scotia the air is thick up there...tired bees. Reverie