Turkish troops enter Iraq

The Avon Lady · 06-06-07, 10:48 AM

Oh! Oh!

Thousands of Turkish troops enter Iraq.

bradclark1 · 06-06-07, 11:59 AM

Turkey has said repeatedly that if the Kurds keep doing these raids they'll take action. The whole region is one big soap opera.

Heibges · 06-06-07, 12:32 PM

Again, it seems the Kurds will take it in the rump.

tycho102 · 06-06-07, 01:47 PM

I support the Kurds before Turkey. Don't like the PKK bombings, but that is how islamic warfare is waged.

Turkey is an "ally" because of all the pipelines that run through it. Their population is headed for fundamentalism, whether their army protests or not. It couldn't handle a Turkish military dictatorship because Lebanon and Syria and Iran would be right the heck up in there with jihadists.

Although, I'm not entirely sure that Kurdistan would not eventually become fundamentalist. It's reasonably sectarian right now but that entire area is a land of gangs and clans.

Skybird · 06-06-07, 02:47 PM

Events like this are no news. I know that artillery shelling and expeditions of hundreds of troops into northern Iraq took place since short after the 2003 war. and as the article says, it also happened when Saddam still was there.

The Avon Lady · 07-09-07, 12:43 PM

It's deja vu all over again!

geetrue · 07-09-07, 12:53 PM

I don't know what to make of this new build up of troops.

I was worried last time you posted this news, first week of June, but nothing came of it.

The oil deal for the Kurds never came through, because of bickering in Iraq's parliment. Now this ... who will defend them?

07-09-07, 02:23 PM

Turkey has long complained of U.S. inaction against separatist rebels, who have escalated attacks inside Turkey in recent months.

As I recall Turkey denide the US overflight and troop staging areas in and above its territory during the build-up leading to OIF. I guess they are paying for that decision. There is a lesson to be learned here.

P_Funk · 07-09-07, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by waste gate

Turkey has long complained of U.S. inaction against separatist rebels, who have escalated attacks inside Turkey in recent months.

As I recall Turkey denide the US overflight and troop staging areas in and above its territory during the build-up leading to OIF. I guess they are paying for that decision. There is a lesson to be learned here.

Thats right. Don't tell the US they can't play war in your sandbox cause then they won't let you enjoy the afterparty out of vengeance.

The US is self serviant. Its not about a noble cause. So suck up or piss off is the policy.

August · 07-09-07, 02:45 PM

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The Avon Lady · 07-09-07, 02:52 PM

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Yep, I started the thread on June 6.

Bite me!

Heibges · 07-09-07, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waste gate

Turkey has long complained of U.S. inaction against separatist rebels, who have escalated attacks inside Turkey in recent months.

As I recall Turkey denide the US overflight and troop staging areas in and above its territory during the build-up leading to OIF. I guess they are paying for that decision. There is a lesson to be learned here.

I think Turkey was hoping to avoid a US Invasion altogether. Although I feel sorry for the Kurds, I can understand the Turkish attitude towards any kind of Kurdish seperatist movement.

07-09-07, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by P_Funk

Quote:

Originally Posted by waste gate

Turkey has long complained of U.S. inaction against separatist rebels, who have escalated attacks inside Turkey in recent months.

As I recall Turkey denide the US overflight and troop staging areas in and above its territory during the build-up leading to OIF. I guess they are paying for that decision. There is a lesson to be learned here.

Thats right. Don't tell the US they can't play war in your sandbox cause then they won't let you enjoy the afterparty out of vengeance.

The US is self serviant. Its not about a noble cause. So suck up or piss off is the policy.

Not vengeagence P-funk. The lesson is; decisions have consequences. The sooner that lesson is learned the better for every nation and for that matter every individual. That is life at every level, and if you plan to ask for help in the future then one must be willing to help in the now.

It goes both ways. In the future the Turks may not help the US....again.

07-09-07, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Heibges

Quote:

Originally Posted by waste gate

Turkey has long complained of U.S. inaction against separatist rebels, who have escalated attacks inside Turkey in recent months.

As I recall Turkey denide the US overflight and troop staging areas in and above its territory during the build-up leading to OIF. I guess they are paying for that decision. There is a lesson to be learned here.

I think Turkey was hoping to avoid a US Invasion altogether. Although I feel sorry for the Kurds, I can understand the Turkish attitude towards any kind of Kurdish seperatist movement.

That may very well have been the case. After all, Sadam was taking care of Turkey's Kurdish problem wasn't he?

PeriscopeDepth · 07-09-07, 04:02 PM

And we often think the US has an insecure border. Of course the Turks are deploying troops to help secure what IS a very real threat to Turkey. It's expected, though certainly doesn't help the situation in Iraq IMO.

PD

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,602 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Events like this are no news. I know that artillery shelling and expeditions of hundreds of troops into northern Iraq took place since short after the 2003 war. and as the article says, it also happened when Saddam still was there. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

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The Avon Lady Über Mom Join Date: May 2005 Location: Jerusalem, Israel Posts: 6,147 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	It's deja vu all over again! __________________ "Victory will come to us from the wombs of our women." - Houari Boumedienne, President of Algeria, Speech before the UN, 1974

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geetrue Cold War Boomer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Walla Walla Posts: 2,837 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I don't know what to make of this new build up of troops. I was worried last time you posted this news, first week of June, but nothing came of it. The oil deal for the Kurds never came through, because of bickering in Iraq's parliment. Now this ... who will defend them? __________________

06-06-07, 11:59 AM	#2
bradclark1 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Connecticut, USA. Posts: 2,794 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Turkey has said repeatedly that if the Kurds keep doing these raids they'll take action. The whole region is one big soap opera.

06-06-07, 01:47 PM	#4
tycho102 Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,100 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I support the Kurds before Turkey. Don't like the PKK bombings, but that is how islamic warfare is waged. Turkey is an "ally" because of all the pipelines that run through it. Their population is headed for fundamentalism, whether their army protests or not. It couldn't handle a Turkish military dictatorship because Lebanon and Syria and Iran would be right the heck up in there with jihadists. Although, I'm not entirely sure that Kurdistan would not eventually become fundamentalist. It's reasonably sectarian right now but that entire area is a land of gangs and clans.

07-09-07, 02:23 PM	#8
waste gate Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Turkey has long complained of U.S. inaction against separatist rebels, who have escalated attacks inside Turkey in recent months. As I recall Turkey denide the US overflight and troop staging areas in and above its territory during the build-up leading to OIF. I guess they are paying for that decision. There is a lesson to be learned here.

07-09-07, 04:02 PM	#15
PeriscopeDepth Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 1,894 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	And we often think the US has an insecure border. Of course the Turks are deploying troops to help secure what IS a very real threat to Turkey. It's expected, though certainly doesn't help the situation in Iraq IMO. PD