Regarding some bizarre threads and posts around here!

[AVGWarhawk]

Uhmmmm....the pin up girls are certainly more tame then what is spread all over the internet/TV/magazines. In fact, the pin-up girls leave a lot to the imagination were as todays media leave nothing at all to the imagination. I have never heard a women complain about a pin-up girl from a era gone by. Now, lay out the latest from the adult video store or Penthouse....then you have an upset women on your hands.

As far as Pimp and Pimpette......call me what you want....just do not call me late for dinner

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Camaero

^^^ Thats a jug pilot... get it?

Somewhere in all my books I have a picture of a P-47 (Jug, 7-ton Milk Bottle, etc.), and the nose art is of a topless person of the female persuasion, and the name of the plane is 'Two Big and Too Heavy'.

[Beery]

Originally Posted by hellas1

Another example of wrong posting:
What the does a scantily clad pinup girl have to do with sinking Battleships, Merchant ships, interception, shooting down airplanes? :hmm:

A submarine that never had a pin-up is a sub that never had a crew.

[NEON DEON]

Originally Posted by Beery

A submarine that never had a pin-up is a sub that never had a crew.

LOL!

The movie "Run Silent Run Deep" When battle stations sounded the crew would leave the mess and pat their Pin up Girl on her end as they made for their stations.

[perisher]

It's realism

[hellas1]

Hello everyone,

I now consider the use of the phrase "pimps and pimpettes" to be wrong.

My point was this: "Use discretion when posting what you post. This is a public site, not private."

I want to hear what ladies, who have a presence here, think about this stuff. No poster in this thread said they were a woman.

hellas1

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by hellas1

Hello everyone,

I now consider the use of the phrase "pimps and pimpettes" to be wrong.

My point was this: "Use discretion when posting what you post. This is a public site, not private."

I want to hear what ladies, who have a presence here, think about this stuff. No poster in this thread said they were a woman.

hellas1

I often find that women interested in WW2 and it's history/machinery are not offended by a simple pin-up. Like most men, they are totally into the study of WW2 or totally not. Like my wife, "We are not watching another black and white bang bang movie again are we?" OK, totally not into it.

Now, Penelope Grey who plays SH3 is about 20 years old and smokes cigars. She has never found anything offending on the pin-up for the uboats. She is super nice to talk too. Again, if they are totally into it then it usually is not an issue.

Brings me to my question....You want to hear it from the ladies...to what end?

[heartc]

Originally Posted by hellas1

Hello everyone,

I now consider the use of the phrase "pimps and pimpettes" to be wrong.

My point was this: "Use discretion when posting what you post. This is a public site, not private."

I want to hear what ladies, who have a presence here, think about this stuff. No poster in this thread said they were a woman.

hellas1

I'm a woman. Happy now?

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Hey, this is "the internets". You can pretend to be anybody.
Really man, there is some serious and gross stuff happening out there in this world. Your percieved discrimination against women on a subsim website is *not* one of them. Take a chill pill. Or I will. I can't take much more of this, especially now that the thread was just headed the right way with some nice pics.
Is this how they indoctrinate people today in public schools? Look, the Nazis usually had no boobs on their airplanes, but children friendly Mickey Mouses, Teddy Bears and what not. Political Correctness right there. Sure the Nazi leaders got a huge bonus for that once in hell.

In fact, if I were a woman, by now I would probably be offended by being put into victimhood in such a moronic discussion. "Hey, are you not offended by boobs on a Thunderbolt? Are you not? Hey, speak up please, will ya? Are you not?" :rotfl:

Anyway. I like this one:

[Beery]

I'll try to get my wife to post...

[Beery]

My wife (Elisabeth) writes:

Originally Posted by Elisabeth

So Beery got his wife to post cuz he said he'd forgive her for scraping the car against a pole....

Seriously, I think that the art is just that, art, and inspiring to those who view it. Who hasn't looked at a "buy war bonds" poster and thought about what it was like surrounded by that all the time? The art is gentler, pre-photo with stylized lines (even the "neked" bits). The judge who said you'd know porn if you saw it was right ~ otherwise it's good looking people on a piece of paper.

I also think that people had more freedom and could personalize their machines to humanize them; make them more a friend like many of us view our cars. However, nowadays almost nothing is personalized, which may be why it is such a shock to see military craft painted by hand and images from the imagination of those who flew or cared for the machines.

How many people have tried to paint something recently?

Regarding pimps or pimpettes, my only question is whether those are equal careers that pay the same?

[Beery]

Note: she did not just 'scrape' the car against a pole. She managed to jam the pole into the car so hard that the panel has to be beaten back out again, filled and repainted.

But I forgive her.

[U56_Dragon]

I agree with the historic effect here. Our men went to battle with many female art forms. Wether it be on the nose of aircraft, on the ship, or on the ground.
It is HISTORY, I have yet to see any crude links or pics from this site.
I myself love the girl art from the wars.
If you want to be historically correct, it happened, and that is the way it was and is.
I see no harm in this action to post pics from the history we all know here.
Just my opinion only, no harm is meant by how I feel.

[GSpector]

Not sure, but after reading hellas1's post's, I can't help but get the feeling that he'd really get bent out of shape if we had pics with a Swastika on it, claiming that it is a hateful symbol and it should not be used because it "may" offend someone here.

What may not seem appropriate today, does not change the fact that it was still part of history. It was this thinking that caused Sim Developers to not use the historic symbol on German WW2 aircraft (without a MOD or patch) cough..UBI..cough.

Same thinking caused museums to paint over the Swastika on historic aircraft.

Again, my point is, just because it may not be acceptable now, does not change the fact that it's historic. As long as the pin ups and even the Swastika are used in the proper context for the time period, I'm 100% in favor of them in Sims.

[Beery]

I must admit to being sympathetic to the OP's overall motivation. While I'm 100% for realism, I still abhor the notion that any segment of the population should be treated differently/poorly because of skin colour, sex or any other superficial difference. But one of the great things about historical simulations is that they often show the naive and reactionary nature of such prejudices. When we can compare our modern life with a simulation of a world of years ago we often see how plain stupid rules based on prejudice can be. Historical simulations can bring these issues to life in a way that no book or film can do.

On the specific issue of sex/nudity though, I take issue with the OP's stance. Nudity is not wrong, nor is sex. The portrayal of females in a state of undress demeans the female only in a mind that is already corrupted in some puerile way. The unclothed female form is demeaning to no female, just as the unclothed male form is demeaning to no male. The human form is beautiful because it is natural. 1940s nose art and pin-ups were a celebration of beauty, not an exercise in debauchery.

[Camaero]

Anyway. I like this one:

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I have a workshirt with that nose art on it! It rocks!