How badly is your hull damaged?

Brag · 04-13-07, 10:47 AM

Without knowing the percentage of hull damage in GWX, diving deep can have disastrous consequences.

I have noticed that when the hull is damaged, when you start the game, lights will flicker in the Zentralle and there will be some sparking. The bigger the damage, the longer the flickering and sparking will last.

On my last patrol, the sparking lasted close to 10 seconds. When returning to port, I was shoked to find out my hull integrity was down to 56%.

I'm glad I did not have to go deeper than PD on the last half of my patrol, A dive to 100 meters could have been disastrous.

Has anyone else observed the sparking and timed it to assess damage?

Keelbuster · 04-13-07, 11:13 AM

Um - not sure about that - I use the onset of the sparking/lights out to mean that I'm below my safe depth. After I take damage, I go down to a deep depth - like 140m or so. If at any point i see the 'sparking' (and my CE says 'we are taking damage sir'), I note the depth and quickly blow ballast. From now on, I can't go that deep. If you are getting the 'sparking' effect, you are probably taking more damage, and hence reducing your safe depth. In short, I wouldn't advise hanging around to count sparking times because...they will get longer

emtmedic005 · 04-13-07, 11:40 AM

Does anyone know the ratio of your sub's hull integrity to the crush depth? I ask this cause i've noticed that even when i have like 90% HI and i dive deep to about 180 meters then the sparking, creaking noises and lights flickering starts? Some one good at math should know what im talking about...i hope:hmm:

O and i also noticed that the deeper you go, the more "nervous" the helmsman are, like he always turns around and looks at me, hahaha

Jimbuna · 04-13-07, 12:55 PM

Don't forget the glass from the guages and dials that shatters

P_Funk · 04-13-07, 05:52 PM

I just tried out the new VIIC/41 model last night in a new career. The moment I got to over 1000 meters I crash dived and didn't stp til I was at 272 meters.

Aside from a nervous helmsman and alot of "we're diving to deep sir" it was all good. It seems that at 100% hull integrity you can go anywhere.

rb4door · 04-13-07, 07:13 PM

^^^ assuming it is modeling the real VIIC/41 (and I cant imagine why it wouldnt), the actual listed crush depth for a VIIC/41 was 275 to 325 m, and the /42 was 350 to 400 m! - so thats why you were ok. I dont think you can "go anywhere" - perhaps try diving beyond that depth and see what happens

P_Funk · 04-13-07, 07:26 PM

Oh I just might. Its mid 44 so when I hit a convoy I might just have to anyway.

TheJaguar · 04-14-07, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by emtmedic005

O and i also noticed that the deeper you go, the more "nervous" the helmsman are, like he always turns around and looks at me, hahaha

Yes I love that bit. I pretend I am Marcus and ask questions about books.

STEED · 04-14-07, 09:28 AM

Take a look at my pics on post 2939 of my XXI they will shock you!!!

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...83681&page=147

Brag · 04-14-07, 10:33 AM

Thoroughly shocking, you better get back to the party

it's healthier there, even with all the shooting.

firouz · 04-15-07, 05:45 PM

Has anyone else observed the sparking and timed it to assess damage?

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Brag, I find this a really good reminder when restarting. Especially as I like to tangle with the enemy up close.

U179 went down this way. Previously damaged by aircraft in early mission, a month later when almost home I had to evade 3 DDs . Nicely done, but a little more damage. Boof!

at 245m while drifting down. I have the damage % turned off, so life can be a little exciting at times. The crew looked VERY nervous right before U179 imploded

Foghladh_mhara · 04-16-07, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by emtmedic005

O and i also noticed that the deeper you go, the more "nervous" the helmsman are, like he always turns around and looks at me, hahaha

I conducted my own deepdive experiment to see the limit of my undamaged VIIB with % integrity turned on and my planesman practically wet himself. His knee was jerking like mad

Mind you he was right to freak out. I went to 235m before the first drop in integrity but I pushed it too far. Managed another 12m before the sub imploded

Canovaro · 04-16-07, 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by STEED

Take a look at my pics on post 2939 of my XXI they will shock you!!!

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...83681&page=147

That's awful!

Kaleun Cook · 04-16-07, 04:59 AM

That's why I'm waiting for drifter repair mod. With it it'll at last last longer to get such holes closed which might cause your sinking. In real, one hit through the tube would have made it impossible to dive. Yesterday I took several shells from an escort and was able to repair the damage before I reached 100 meters.

Jimbuna · 04-16-07, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEED

Take a look at my pics on post 2939 of my XXI they will shock you!!!

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...83681&page=147

Bloody scratches ....pass me the antiseptic cream

04-13-07, 10:47 AM	#1
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	How badly is your hull damaged? Without knowing the percentage of hull damage in GWX, diving deep can have disastrous consequences. I have noticed that when the hull is damaged, when you start the game, lights will flicker in the Zentralle and there will be some sparking. The bigger the damage, the longer the flickering and sparking will last. On my last patrol, the sparking lasted close to 10 seconds. When returning to port, I was shoked to find out my hull integrity was down to 56%. I'm glad I did not have to go deeper than PD on the last half of my patrol, A dive to 100 meters could have been disastrous. Has anyone else observed the sparking and timed it to assess damage? __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

04-13-07, 11:13 AM	#2
Keelbuster Ace of the Deep Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: BA 72 Posts: 1,092 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Um - not sure about that - I use the onset of the sparking/lights out to mean that I'm below my safe depth. After I take damage, I go down to a deep depth - like 140m or so. If at any point i see the 'sparking' (and my CE says 'we are taking damage sir'), I note the depth and quickly blow ballast. From now on, I can't go that deep. If you are getting the 'sparking' effect, you are probably taking more damage, and hence reducing your safe depth. In short, I wouldn't advise hanging around to count sparking times because...they will get longer __________________

04-13-07, 11:40 AM	#3
emtmedic005 Weps Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: North Andover, MA Posts: 361 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Math Stuff Does anyone know the ratio of your sub's hull integrity to the crush depth? I ask this cause i've noticed that even when i have like 90% HI and i dive deep to about 180 meters then the sparking, creaking noises and lights flickering starts? Some one good at math should know what im talking about...i hope:hmm: O and i also noticed that the deeper you go, the more "nervous" the helmsman are, like he always turns around and looks at me, hahaha

04-13-07, 12:55 PM	#4
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Don't forget the glass from the guages and dials that shatters __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

04-13-07, 05:52 PM	#5
P_Funk Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 2,537 Downloads: 129 Uploads: 0	I just tried out the new VIIC/41 model last night in a new career. The moment I got to over 1000 meters I crash dived and didn't stp til I was at 272 meters. Aside from a nervous helmsman and alot of "we're diving to deep sir" it was all good. It seems that at 100% hull integrity you can go anywhere. __________________

04-13-07, 07:13 PM	#6
rb4door Machinist's Mate Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: St Naz Posts: 129 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	^^^ assuming it is modeling the real VIIC/41 (and I cant imagine why it wouldnt), the actual listed crush depth for a VIIC/41 was 275 to 325 m, and the /42 was 350 to 400 m! - so thats why you were ok. I dont think you can "go anywhere" - perhaps try diving beyond that depth and see what happens

04-13-07, 07:26 PM	#7
P_Funk Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada, eh? Posts: 2,537 Downloads: 129 Uploads: 0	Oh I just might. Its mid 44 so when I hit a convoy I might just have to anyway. __________________

04-14-07, 09:28 AM	#9
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	Take a look at my pics on post 2939 of my XXI they will shock you!!! http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...83681&page=147 __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

04-14-07, 10:33 AM	#10
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Thoroughly shocking, you better get back to the party it's healthier there, even with all the shooting. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

04-15-07, 05:45 PM	#11
firouz Seaman Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: On patrol Posts: 37 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Has anyone else observed the sparking and timed it to assess damage?[/quote] Brag, I find this a really good reminder when restarting. Especially as I like to tangle with the enemy up close. U179 went down this way. Previously damaged by aircraft in early mission, a month later when almost home I had to evade 3 DDs . Nicely done, but a little more damage. Boof! at 245m while drifting down. I have the damage % turned off, so life can be a little exciting at times. The crew looked VERY nervous right before U179 imploded __________________

04-16-07, 04:59 AM	#14
Kaleun Cook Chief Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: ger Posts: 313 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	That's why I'm waiting for drifter repair mod. With it it'll at last last longer to get such holes closed which might cause your sinking. In real, one hit through the tube would have made it impossible to dive. Yesterday I took several shells from an escort and was able to repair the damage before I reached 100 meters.