Whats the point of the observation Perisope?

fastfed · 04-05-07, 08:39 AM

I never ever use it, ONLY! if my normal Periscope breaks..

So what do you guys use it for? And also while we are on the subject, does using the O scope for attacks work just as well as the P scope?

When my P scope is damaged and I lock onto a target it sometimes loses the target so I keep hitting L until I ready to fire.

danlisa · 04-05-07, 08:53 AM

The Obs scobe is actually a better tool than the Periscope because it's smaller. It works just aswell as the Peri for targetting purposes and it has a better viewing angle, very useful for spotting planes.

Now, that said, if you conduct long range submerged attacks then the Peri is the tool for you as it has better magnification but for short range submerged attacks the Obs is the tool to use.

I always use the Obs scope regardless.

Dowly · 04-05-07, 08:56 AM

TBH, I always though the attack periscope is the smaller, more harder to spot. Why use bigger, easielly detectable scope for attacks?

Brag · 04-05-07, 08:58 AM

Inside a convoy, it is easier and quicker to find targets with the O scope. try it a couple of times and see what works best for you.

danlisa · 04-05-07, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

TBH, I always though the attack periscope is the smaller, more harder to spot. Why use bigger, easielly detectable scope for attacks?

Are you sure? I'm not sure now.

Damn you!

Brag · 04-05-07, 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by danlisa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

TBH, I always though the attack periscope is the smaller, more harder to spot. Why use bigger, easielly detectable scope for attacks?

Are you sure? I'm not sure now.

Damn you!

Dowly rained on only half the parade --OBS scope works good at night

Platapus · 04-05-07, 09:41 AM

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The Observation periscope is bigger than the Attack periscope. I do not know if the game actually models the difference in the light gathering capabilities between the two apertures but the Observation periscope was better in low light conditions.

Also the Observation periscope was able to be elevated more than the attack periscope. I wonder if, in real life, if the Observation periscope was used for photography?

One thing to be very careful of in this game…

If you have the habit of using the Observation periscope and the Attack periscope, be sure that you double check to see that you have lowered the Observation periscope when you lower the attack periscope.

Not that anyone here would be dumb enough to lower the attack periscope and forget that the observation periscope is still up…no you would really have to be dumb to do that….Trust me, it aint a good thing to do <hanging head in shame>

humesdog · 04-05-07, 10:04 AM

:rotfl: That would be dumb to do

danlisa · 04-05-07, 10:06 AM

Right that settles it, I was wrong about the respective sizes of each optical view.

Please disregard Post #2

Morts · 04-05-07, 10:50 AM

***The periscope is the only means for a submerged U-boat to peer out into the sky and scan the horizon for surface activity. The majority of boats were fitted with two periscopes – an attack periscope for spotting and targeting surface vessels, and an observation periscope for scanning the sky and taking navigational bearings.*** -- www.uboataces.com

thats why

Sailor Steve · 04-05-07, 10:53 AM

The observation periscope is meant for just that-observation. In real life it had a wider field of vision, allowed in more light, and the lens could be cranked up 85 degrees to look for badnasty flying things. Also it was easier to raise it and look around than to climb up into the conning tower to use the attack 'scope.

The game doesn't make a distinction where light is concerned, but all the other things are modelled. If you click on things to get around (as opposed to just hitting keys) the O-'scope really does become easier to use to look around just before you surface.

Dowly · 04-05-07, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by danlisa

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

TBH, I always though the attack periscope is the smaller, more harder to spot. Why use bigger, easielly detectable scope for attacks?

Are you sure? I'm not sure now.

Damn you!

ROFL! I wasnt sure either, but somehow, it makes more sense to have the attack periscope smaller. :rotfl:

Herr Russ · 04-05-07, 12:06 PM

Dang, I can imagine Bernard raising it to see if the DD is still behind us

Heibges · 04-05-07, 06:47 PM

I believe also that many times they used both scopes at once to increase their security.

USS Sea Tiger · 04-05-07, 07:57 PM

I usually end up getting run over in convoys and my attack scope destroyed.

then I switch to the O scope to get my butt out of there, and still make a kill or two.

04-05-07, 08:39 AM	#1
fastfed Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 786 Downloads: 254 Uploads: 0	Whats the point of the observation Perisope? I never ever use it, ONLY! if my normal Periscope breaks.. So what do you guys use it for? And also while we are on the subject, does using the O scope for attacks work just as well as the P scope? When my P scope is damaged and I lock onto a target it sometimes loses the target so I keep hitting L until I ready to fire.

04-05-07, 08:58 AM	#4
Brag Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Docked on a Russian pond Posts: 7,072 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Inside a convoy, it is easier and quicker to find targets with the O scope. try it a couple of times and see what works best for you. __________________ Espionage, adventure, suspense, are just a click away Click here to look inside Brag's book: Amazon.com: Kingmaker: Alexey Braguine: Books Order Kingmaker here: http://www.subsim.com/store.html For Tactics visit:http://www.freewebs.com/kielman/

04-05-07, 10:06 AM	#9
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	Right that settles it, I was wrong about the respective sizes of each optical view. Please disregard Post #2 __________________

04-05-07, 10:53 AM	#11
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	The observation periscope is meant for just that-observation. In real life it had a wider field of vision, allowed in more light, and the lens could be cranked up 85 degrees to look for badnasty flying things. Also it was easier to raise it and look around than to climb up into the conning tower to use the attack 'scope. The game doesn't make a distinction where light is concerned, but all the other things are modelled. If you click on things to get around (as opposed to just hitting keys) the O-'scope really does become easier to use to look around just before you surface. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

04-05-07, 06:47 PM	#14
Heibges Sea Lord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: San Francisco, California Posts: 1,633 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I believe also that many times they used both scopes at once to increase their security. __________________ U.Kdt.Hdb B. I. 28) This possibility of using the hydrophone to help in detecting surface ships should, however, be restricted to those cases where the submarine is unavoidably compelled to stay below the surface. http://www.hackworth.com/

04-05-07, 08:53 AM	#2
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	The Obs scobe is actually a better tool than the Periscope because it's smaller. It works just aswell as the Peri for targetting purposes and it has a better viewing angle, very useful for spotting planes. Now, that said, if you conduct long range submerged attacks then the Peri is the tool for you as it has better magnification but for short range submerged attacks the Obs is the tool to use. I always use the Obs scope regardless. __________________

04-05-07, 08:56 AM	#3
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,052 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	TBH, I always though the attack periscope is the smaller, more harder to spot. Why use bigger, easielly detectable scope for attacks?

04-05-07, 09:41 AM	#7
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,362 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	x The Observation periscope is bigger than the Attack periscope. I do not know if the game actually models the difference in the light gathering capabilities between the two apertures but the Observation periscope was better in low light conditions. Also the Observation periscope was able to be elevated more than the attack periscope. I wonder if, in real life, if the Observation periscope was used for photography? One thing to be very careful of in this game… If you have the habit of using the Observation periscope and the Attack periscope, be sure that you double check to see that you have lowered the Observation periscope when you lower the attack periscope. Not that anyone here would be dumb enough to lower the attack periscope and forget that the observation periscope is still up…no you would really have to be dumb to do that….Trust me, it aint a good thing to do <hanging head in shame>

04-05-07, 10:04 AM	#8
humesdog Seaman Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 40 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	:rotfl: That would be dumb to do

04-05-07, 10:50 AM	#10
Morts Admiral Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,395 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	*The periscope is the only means for a submerged U-boat to peer out into the sky and scan the horizon for surface activity. The majority of boats were fitted with two periscopes – an attack periscope for spotting and targeting surface vessels, and an observation periscope for scanning the sky and taking navigational bearings.* -- www.uboataces.com thats why

04-05-07, 12:06 PM	#13
Herr Russ Officer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: San Diego, CA. Posts: 246 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Dang, I can imagine Bernard raising it to see if the DD is still behind us

04-05-07, 07:57 PM	#15
USS Sea Tiger XO Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 425 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	My use of the O scope I usually end up getting run over in convoys and my attack scope destroyed. then I switch to the O scope to get my butt out of there, and still make a kill or two.