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Old 03-16-07, 01:09 PM   #1
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Default Koenigsegg hit back at Bughatti w/ 1018 hp CCXR Biofueled car

I think the 806 HP CCX is still faster than the 1001 Bughatti - it has a higher power to weight ratio than the Bughatti, and better drag co so laws of physics say it will out-do the Veyron in everything. Still, the Bughatti had the HP crown, but I guess that was short lived - http://www.hybridcarnews.org/entry/k...-fuel-powered/

On top of this, it is powered by Biofuel no less! Wow! I guess Biofuel allows for better cooling so it is probably easier to crank up the HP when less heat is generated.

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Old 03-16-07, 01:12 PM   #2
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it aint better then the veyron until it can go faster then 407km/h
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Old 03-16-07, 01:21 PM   #3
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it aint better then the veyron until it can go faster then 407km/h
The standard CCX probably can. They took it to about 250 MPH, but it probably can go faster. With an additional 200 HP, you are probably looking at about 430 km/h or better.

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Old 03-16-07, 02:23 PM   #4
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Is this biddiesel?
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Old 03-16-07, 02:26 PM   #5
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Is this biddiesel?
No - I think Ethanol - corn.

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Old 03-16-07, 04:45 PM   #6
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I'd take one to the salt flats!
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Old 03-16-07, 06:20 PM   #7
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only reason why the veyron is going max 407kmh is because the researchers said no tires on the planet that are rubber that can fit on the veyron exist because the car is going so fast the tire wears out in under 15 min, that doesnt matter since the gas only lasts 12 min, but if they go faster then serious problems could arise, especially with speed, koenig is gonna have the same problem they aint gonna go faster then 407km/h if they do then god bless the smart ba***rds lol :rotfl:

edit* after 450km/h ish the vehicles are going so fast they have to use steel or aluminum alloy wheels like in the rocket cars, AND since aint rubber wheels it aint street legal thus no point in making it, bugatti made veyron so they can have the title of the worlds fastest STREET LEGAL car. no fastest car on the planet because that belongs to some rocket car ....
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Why would you want a car that can only go for 12 minutes?:hmm:
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The horsepower numbers on the newer sports cars are frankly getting insane. For instance, there's a new version of the Corvette C6 coming out next year that will have a supercharged 6.2L V8, and will get 600-650hp (some insiders say as high as 680). That's more power than the McLaren F1, which once held the title of the world's fastest cars (though this new 'vette probably won't be quite as fast), on a car a fraction the price. There are also rumors that the top model of the 7th gen Corvette will have around 700hp, naturally aspirated. I wonder how long it will be before we see a 1000hp factory Corvette, and when that happens I wonder how powerful the million-dollar supercars of the time will be.
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If I am not mistaken, Good Year made tires for the SR-71/YF-12.

They used Aluminium impregnated rubber. If you ever see them, they look grey.

I would think Good Year could do the same for these cars if someone approached them. At least to test the cars on the Salt Flats :hmm:
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Old 03-17-07, 10:44 AM   #11
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veyron gas tank lasts for 12 min AT 407km/h and the tires last for 15min at 407km/h

the airplanes have jet engine those tires are like the weight of paper to them, put those on a veyron and it wont go past 300km/h without the tranny or engine dying.

corvette and mclaren r different. mclaren had carbon fiber body and chassis.
corvette are still good though they r the really cheap way of getting 600+hp

1000hp corvette:hmm:, ill have to see how the americans build this one, i am a fan of their classic muscle cars like the 1969-1970 dodge charger, 1969 mustang gt500, dodge challenger, barracuda, and the chevelle SS, but the new ones i hate so much they killed the charger name and the mustang gt looks ok but i dont like it, challenger and camaro look ugly.
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only reason why the veyron is going max 407kmh is because the researchers said no tires on the planet that are rubber that can fit on the veyron exist because the car is going so fast the tire wears out in under 15 min, that doesnt matter since the gas only lasts 12 min, but if they go faster then serious problems could arise, especially with speed, koenig is gonna have the same problem they aint gonna go faster then 407km/h if they do then god bless the smart ba***rds lol :rotfl:

edit* after 450km/h ish the vehicles are going so fast they have to use steel or aluminum alloy wheels like in the rocket cars, AND since aint rubber wheels it aint street legal thus no point in making it, bugatti made veyron so they can have the title of the worlds fastest STREET LEGAL car. no fastest car on the planet because that belongs to some rocket car ....
That 15 min thing is supposed to be a joke. On a track, with a lot of side pressures acting on them, maybe, but in a straight line, you won't get a lot of tire wear. Get harder tires if you want to make them last longer at this speed - this will be at the expense of cornering - tires come in multiple grades of softness so it depends on what you are looking for.

An example - Collani has a car that will do over 300 MPH/480 km/h (It is not a production car so it can't claim to be the fastest production car in existence as in this group) and he runs it on rubber. His next one will handle and do 320 to 325 MPH (520 km/h) and will also handle fine on a track - it also uses rubber. These tires are even lower profile than the Veyeron.

At Mach 1 though, you might want to switch to aluminum. Besides, tires are heavy and aluminum is light - another reason to use it on the salt flats.

Don't beleive these TV guys telling you that the rubber will only last 15 min - if he were racing and manuvering, then I'd probably beleive him.

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the airplanes have jet engine those tires are like the weight of paper to them, put those on a veyron and it wont go past 300km/h without the tranny or engine dying.
Speaking of jet engines, I'm surprised nobody has attempted to build a supercar using a gas turbine engine. I know there's a motorbike out there that uses one; it costs around $300,000 and can exceed 360 km/h.

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corvette and mclaren r different. mclaren had carbon fiber body and chassis. corvette are still good though they r the really cheap way of getting 600+hp
Yes, indeed they are different: Unlike the complex technological showpieces that are exotic supercars, the Corvette has always emphasized simplicity of design, so it always has, and probably always will use a front-engine, RWD layout (as opposed the mid-engine used by exotic supercars like the F1), a high-displacement pushrod V8 (only the very first Corvettes didn't use a V8), and transverse leaf-spring suspension. All these define what a Corvette is, much the way the Porsche 911 is defined by it's rear-mounted boxer engine (and some would say it should have remained air cooled, but I digress).

Although, I would expect this upcoming Corvette SS to make even more extensive use of exotic materials than the current Z06, which already has an all-aluminum frame, magnesium engine cradle, composite body panels, and carbon-fiber bumbers, wheel arches and floorpan.
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Old 03-18-07, 11:21 AM   #14
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y2k superbike
http://www.marineturbine.com/motorsports.asp

heres sound of starting up
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the airplanes have jet engine those tires are like the weight of paper to them, put those on a veyron and it wont go past 300km/h without the tranny or engine dying.
Speaking of jet engines, I'm surprised nobody has attempted to build a supercar using a gas turbine engine. I know there's a motorbike out there that uses one; it costs around $300,000 and can exceed 360 km/h.

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corvette and mclaren r different. mclaren had carbon fiber body and chassis. corvette are still good though they r the really cheap way of getting 600+hp
Yes, indeed they are different: Unlike the complex technological showpieces that are exotic supercars, the Corvette has always emphasized simplicity of design, so it always has, and probably always will use a front-engine, RWD layout (as opposed the mid-engine used by exotic supercars like the F1), a high-displacement pushrod V8 (only the very first Corvettes didn't use a V8), and transverse leaf-spring suspension. All these define what a Corvette is, much the way the Porsche 911 is defined by it's rear-mounted boxer engine (and some would say it should have remained air cooled, but I digress).

Although, I would expect this upcoming Corvette SS to make even more extensive use of exotic materials than the current Z06, which already has an all-aluminum frame, magnesium engine cradle, composite body panels, and carbon-fiber bumbers, wheel arches and floorpan.

A turbine on a car, hmm...

Wouldn't be practical, unless you are on a VERY long road with no slowdowns. Jet engines just don't have the response time of a car's piston block. If they have a way around this, then the only thing to worry about is accidentally sucking crap into the engine while riding it...
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